why the heck knockoff points??

[TZora]

this is the second time gree has knocked off some 3000 points. why the hell do u keep doing that? well, if that keeps happening, most ppl wont see lvl 3 ever. i'm just going to ignore that POS kp nonsense. useless nonsense.

[King Ma$$]

It costs to maintain your KP lvl. KP is meant people who spend, not gold free players.

[TZora]

go jump in a river :p

[sister morphine]

It costs to maintain your KP lvl. KP is meant people who spend, not gold free players.
KP is meant for suckers, I think you meant. :p

[surfinguy369]

It resets every month if you haven't been paying attention!

[TZora]

It resets every month if you haven't been paying attention!

we know it does, but why? turn every action in this game a 'pay for' action. stop advertising the game as a "free game". do that and i can kiss my ass goodbye from this game. let the elite suckers compete with gold, whoever is more of a sucker, wins. then we can call it even.

[Mr. Nezzar]

It rewards gold use. Get over it or move on. You can still play for free.

[TMI]

The answer is in my sig

That's the answer to most cc troubles

[King Ma$$]

Pretty much. Being active in events, opening boxes and killing bosses helps with the points

[TZora]

It rewards gold use. Get over it or move on. You can still play for free.

yeah whatever.. free play like, putting decorations in the hood? oh yeah, i agree :D
come check my hood honey, it's gorgeous lol

[TZora]

btw, i can understand the 'rewards' part. but failing to understand the punishing part for not buying/using gold :p

[Mr. Nezzar]

Think of it as a monthly membership fee to stay in the club and take advantage of the perks.
Btw I'm a free player and aside from a few dumpsters and bags of garbage my hood is pretty much decoration free

[TZora]

Think of it as a monthly membership fee to stay in the club and take advantage of the perks.

that, and then advertising it as a free game :rolleyes:

[King Ma$$]

that, and then advertising it as a free game :rolleyes:

Did you have to pay for the game to download and play it?

[sister morphine]

Did you have to pay for the game to download and play it?
Come on, describing the game as 'free to play' is misleading to put it mildly. If it was possible, by putting in the effort, to get the better prizes there'd be no problem. But we all know there is a 'gold bar' which means free players are locked out as a matter of policy.

[TZora]

yea and now this sucker kingpin is impossible for the so called "free players". u just cannot get past lvl 2 ffs. how is this game a free to play when that kind of nonsense is endorsed?

a free to play game is the one where everyone can use all the features and take benefit of all the aspects of the game.

the only advantage to paid customers shud be that they can get thise features and benefits a bit faster than the free players. i cant stay up with the kingpiss as a free player, so what does that mean? there goes the "free play" out of the window lol.

[King Ma$$]

Come on, describing the game as 'free to play' is misleading to put it mildly. If it was possible, by putting in the effort, to get the better prizes there'd be no problem. But we all know there is a 'gold bar' which means free players are locked out as a matter of policy.

The game is free to play. Spending is a optional matter. I've played at the top and the bottom. Spent money and free played. With enough effort, t10-15 mins can be made without gold. Or if you're on android, using a little video gold.

[King Ma$$]

yea and now this sucker kingpin is impossible for the so called "free players". u just cannot get past lvl 2 ffs. how is this game a free to play when that kind of nonsense is endorsed?

a free to play game is the one where everyone can use all the features and take benefit of all the aspects of the game.

the only advantage to paid customers shud be that they can get thise features and benefits a bit faster than the free players. i cant stay up with the kingpiss as a free player, so what does that mean? there goes the "free play" out of the window lol.

If you are active enough lvl 2 KP is maintable without gold. I have 9 accounts, 8 of which are minis or extra accounts. I can keep lvl 2 on half of them with a little effort.

[POW!]

My big mini is an account I play free on. Stats are solid for it's level. Good ip mod. Active enough with it to be on a top 30-20 team. That's during down time when I'm not playing my main. It's down to level 3 kp but will be back at 4 again soon.

So I'm really not sure why you're complaining. Sounds like to me you spending more time looking at the stuff you can't have than actually playing the game.

[TZora]

My big mini is an account I play free on. Stats are solid for it's level. Good ip mod. Active enough with it to be on a top 30-20 team. That's during down time when I'm not playing my main. It's down to level 3 kp but will be back at 4 again soon.

So I'm really not sure why you're complaining. Sounds like to me you spending more time looking at the stuff you can't have than actually playing the game.

so u r suggesting that everyone shud start new accounts and then maintain those small accounts along with their higher level accounts.

and really, let me know when ur free acount rwaches level 10. can it reach lvl ten? can u achieve with ur free accounts what others can achieve while using gold?

so ur saying that this game is free to install but to gain anything, u have to pay up. i totally agree :)

[F@st]

I lost 60k by month lvl7. I keep l7 for ever cuz no way to spend for get l10 kp is its temp advantage, simple.

With my spend i cant go at l8 or the next lost im l6.....

[TZora]

***not a free game***

free to install but not free to play. i have no issues if it were a paid game but gree needs to stop advertising it as a free game. 99% games on google play are 'free to install, but pay to play" but google itself is at wrongdoing. no wonder the world is fd up lol.

[Mr. Nezzar]

Funny, I've been playing for several years and haven't spent a dime.

[TZora]

Funny, I've been playing for several years and haven't spent a dime.

yeah, i've been playing since years too, playing as if playing simcity :p

buildings and decorations!

[sister morphine]

My big mini is an account I play free on. Stats are solid for it's level. Good ip mod. Active enough with it to be on a top 30-20 team. That's during down time when I'm not playing my main. It's down to level 3 kp but will be back at 4 again soon.

So I'm really not sure why you're complaining. Sounds like to me you spending more time looking at the stuff you can't have than actually playing the game.
Or perhaps we have better ways to spend our time at weekends than be glued to the phone for 18 hours a day at the behest of some 'syndicate board'. :)

[POW!]

Could be people don't have the time. Can't disagree. However, if that's the case, complaining about a game someone doesn't have time to play, but taking the time to go to a forum about the game, and complaining about the game, seems really odd doesn't it? I mean, obviously there's time being put into it then. Hey. If people are unhappy about doing something that makes them unhappy but are happy to tell people how unhappy they are, to each their own. But that would eliminate the theory of not having time though, wouldn't it?

[Mr. Nezzar]

Could be people don't have the time. Can't disagree. However, if that's the case, complaining about a game someone doesn't have time to play, but taking the time to go to a forum about the game, and complaining about the game, seems really odd doesn't it? I mean, obviously there's time being put into it then. Hey. If people are unhappy about doing something that makes them unhappy but are happy to tell people how unhappy they are, to each their own. But that would eliminate the theory of not having time though, wouldn't it?

Lol, that..

[Vile Lynn]

CC is "free to play"... many do it!

Imho, free players cannot reasonably expect to compete with gold players... Gold players should expect to have features beyond what is available to free players: they want to pay for more, they get more.

Gold players base their experience on their gold use; Free players base their experience on activity.
Gold=time.

[Mr. Nezzar]

CC is "free to play"... many do it!

Imho, free players cannot reasonably expect to compete with gold players... Gold players should expect to have features beyond what is available to free players: they want to pay for more, they get more.

Gold players base their experience on their gold use; Free players base their experience on activity.
Gold=time.

Well said, Violin!

[sister morphine]

CC is "free to play"... many do it!

Imho, free players cannot reasonably expect to compete with gold players... Gold players should expect to have features beyond what is available to free players: they want to pay for more, they get more.

Gold players base their experience on their gold use; Free players base their experience on activity.
Gold=time.
Gold used to equal time, yes. But being active enough could get you to the same place; remember the early days of LTQs, when with a bit of effort (and no energy mods) you could get close enough to the end that a small amount of gold could get you to the finish line?

Now, being active all day is no guarantee of anything because of the 'gold bar' locking out free players from all the better prizes.

In part, big spenders are to blame for this state of affairs. Anybody remember the early days of Raid Boss when you'd get people coming on the forum saying it was too easy because their syndicate had just blasted through the entire event with gold in a matter of hours?

[TZora]

CC is "free to play"... many do it!

Imho, free players cannot reasonably expect to compete with gold players... Gold players should expect to have features beyond what is available to free players: they want to pay for more, they get more.

Gold players base their experience on their gold use; Free players base their experience on activity.
Gold=time.

then it shud be time based only. the only advantage to a gold spender shud be, they get stuff faster than free players, that's all. but that's not the case. free players can't complete goals even if they sticck to the phone 24x7.

please explain now how is it a free game?

[TZora]

Could be people don't have the time. Can't disagree. However, if that's the case, complaining about a game someone doesn't have time to play, but taking the time to go to a forum about the game, and complaining about the game, seems really odd doesn't it? I mean, obviously there's time being put into it then. Hey. If people are unhappy about doing something that makes them unhappy but are happy to tell people how unhappy they are, to each their own. But that would eliminate the theory of not having time though, wouldn't it?

we are gree's customers. most of us have spent real money on gold in the past. but that used to be some reasonable spending. now, u just cant complete an event without farting tens of vaults of gold. cant let go off something i spent my money on :)

u seem to be missing the point of this conversation.

[montecore]

Interesting discussion. I get both sides.

[TZora]

not that something's gonna come out of it, but more ppl need to talk about this topic. all events are now turning out to be impossible for the so called 'free players'. just shake us off gree if u dont like us. but stop pretending this to be a 'free to play game'.