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jmeijer
07-22-2016, 03:44 PM
Dear Ostomachion & Vile Lynn,

After reading your explanation about how ranking on the leaderboard is determined during Raid Boss, I feel the need to react on this. Because your explanation doesn't make sense at all. Let's do some math calculations for a bit. In the screenshot below you can see how some syndicates tied.

http://i66.tinypic.com/212zaci.jpg

Are you saying that this is coincidental? Are you really serious about 'who gets there first, will rank higher'?

So.. MaD got there first, then TAP, 138, TNP, 187, PPS, LM.. etc etc? Do you even realise what the chances are for that to happen, with the Guild ID's matching like they do now?

1 in 12!, or 1 in 479.001.600. For only the syns that fit in the screenshot. And I haven't even showed you other screenshots where the same pattern comes up again, and again, and again.

http://i63.tinypic.com/f2lcpe.jpg

Several syndicates that rank very highly have stopped playing Raid Boss or stopped using gold on it. More syndicates will follow.

Stop lying to us. You are NOTHING without your customers.

Red BD
07-22-2016, 03:54 PM
Let's not and say we did.:cool:

Dat Guy
07-22-2016, 04:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvK1F-Thrzk

DjSyla
07-22-2016, 05:20 PM
Cool.. i didnt read this before i wrote the other haha

POW!
07-22-2016, 06:24 PM
I've gotten there first and have been knocked down in a tie.

Dat Guy
07-22-2016, 06:38 PM
I love these two diametrically opposed statements from Ostomachion:

"Thank you for the lively discussion. I will be closing this thread."


Thanks for the discussion, oh yeah, I am closing and locking this thread so that there is no more discussion.

evj
07-23-2016, 01:56 AM
I've been around here a while and played the game for years. I have seen complaining posts come and go, pushed down the line to page 2, 3, - 99 so on and on and on. Sometimes u are lucky and get an answer after some weeks, mostly are sliding by and forgotten.

The only times I have seen Gree came online pretty fast, is where its really serious faults who impact Gree, not their customers.

So just their action by closing the tread and post an "explanation " so fast, is a huge red alert. It tells us something is wrong.

Its also the first time I see Gree post a direct lie officially. Normally they wrap it in so no one can get to them 100%.

This case is not closed from the CC comunity's side.

Nighteg
07-23-2016, 03:50 AM
Math isn't Gree's strong side.

POW!
07-23-2016, 08:13 AM
We've even knocked teams out of rank with a tie.

POW!
07-23-2016, 08:52 AM
You should have said that tie breakers are determined by who starts and hits the boss first. Instead of saying it's who drops it first. That way it would have been almost impossible for anyone question your secret "algorithm". As that would at least have been more plausible to people who know for a fact it's not first to kill.

Also would have pushed people to hurry up and start the next one and get a hit in with hold, as they wouldn't truly know what their competitors are doing. Be creative.

Babytway
07-23-2016, 09:39 AM
You should have said that tie breakers are determined by who starts and hits the boss first. Instead of saying it's who drops it first. That way it would have been almost impossible for anyone question your secret "algorithm". As that would at least have been more plausible to people who know for a fact it's not first to kill.

Also would have pushed people to hurry up and start the next one and get a hit in with hold, as they wouldn't truly know what their competitors are doing. Be creative.well going off OP, if that guild id list is correct and thats how is works in determining order, doesnt matter if your syn hits first or downs a boss first if its always going to follow that id list.

POW!
07-23-2016, 09:59 AM
well going off OP, if that guild id list is correct and thats how is works in determining order, doesnt matter if your syn hits first or downs a boss first if its always going to follow that id list.

Just a little tongue and cheek humor

Babytway
07-23-2016, 10:14 AM
gree is just full of it, i would love to see majority of every syn tie next raid boss to see if this list holds true again.

Red BD
07-23-2016, 02:54 PM
Hmmmmm.... Let's not and say we did.

DjSyla
07-23-2016, 04:41 PM
gree is just full of it, i would love to see majority of every syn tie next raid boss to see if this list holds true again.

It does hold true.. i have ss if the top 10 at 56 and its still follows tha same order from that list that u see above.. thats just 2 seperare sections.. see for yourself

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My synd was kicked down to 7th.. even tho we got 56 before the rest.. then vast did 2 and knocked us to 3rd.. then the other 4 above us got to 56 after us but went ahead.. the rest went behind us...
EXACT SAME ORDER

Gungho
07-24-2016, 12:20 AM
It's been like this from day one, and if GREE don't want to make things right, just don't play it, that the only way something is going to change.

montecore
07-25-2016, 10:12 AM
SAS sat out the last RB. maybe if others join them, this sort of fraud will stop. for the record, telling paying customers that an event works one way when in fact there is proof that it doesn't is fraud.

cajunman
07-25-2016, 11:10 AM
SAS didn't do the event and that's good, too bad they didn't talk sense into their sister syndicates or other top 25 teams to not waste gold on the event.

Gree comes out and tells us its who get the boss kill first that ranks higher and that is bold face lie. I brought this up to them months ago when ties went away and they always say the game is working like its supposed to.

If its the first team to kill the highest level boss then maybe you need to get rid of your programmers that can't figure out a program to do this properly. incompetence is at a premium at Gree.

montecore
07-25-2016, 01:22 PM
its possible they actually think its working this way, although now they have proof to the contrary. I can think of a handful of bugs gree doesn't know about.

Dat Guy
07-27-2016, 10:52 PM
I assume from the silence that Gree is sticking to the narrative that
#syndicateIDsdon'tmatter ?

POW!
07-28-2016, 08:44 AM
I would say chances are it will work this way next rb.

DjSyla
07-28-2016, 11:52 AM
We have shown them proof... let them deny it again... maybe the silence even from mods says it all... bare faced lying a second time will really show there true colours we always knew where there behind the curtain