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War player
03-29-2016, 07:40 AM
Seems the jumping to our sister guilds is not giving credit to guilds from jumpers. Seems it's happing after the new data upload.

Is that a screw up, or is GREE trying to kill jumping?

Or, are we now doing something incorrectly?

Jnsolberg
03-29-2016, 12:44 PM
Seems the jumping to our sister guilds is not giving credit to guilds from jumpers. Seems it's happing after the new data upload.

Is that a screw up, or is GREE trying to kill jumping?

Or, are we now doing something incorrectly?

There was a data download that supposedly fixed it.

Karatefrog
03-29-2016, 01:17 PM
It's not fixed. Only part of my collected goats are counting toward my guild's quest.
In fact, we just leveled up and now my contribution fell from 9 goats to only 2 goats counting toward our quest (I actually have 10 in my box event inventory).
Sending a ticket in

DragCro
03-29-2016, 01:40 PM
Gree ,the Ka community and helping others are the only thing that are keeping people playing this game.Don't kill one of the good part of the game that holds us together.
Listen to your costumers/players because they all want good and for the game and for others felow players

Frostpocket
03-29-2016, 02:12 PM
Gree ,the Ka community and helping others are the only thing that are keeping people playing this game.Don't kill one of the good part of the game that holds us together.
Listen to your costumers/players because they all want good and for the game and for others felow players

Couldn't agree more. Jumping is a hugely enjoyable part of the game. Now, that is threatened, coupled with added quests between wars that you think we don't notice, no skill points for levelling up, an horrendous RB experience, massively hiked up EB that only about three people finish and ridiculous and monotonous box events, with ever increasing requirements, makes me less inclined to participate. Now, a 40% gem sale. If only you listened to your customer base GREE; rather than try to bully us all into spending and attaining unreasonable goals, maybe, you'd be in a better place and you'd have more peeps playing and even spending, rather than just the top few who keep the game ticking on.

Jnsolberg
03-29-2016, 02:50 PM
It's not fixed. Only part of my collected goats are counting toward my guild's quest.
In fact, we just leveled up and now my contribution fell from 9 goats to only 2 goats counting toward our quest (I actually have 10 in my box event inventory).
Sending a ticket in

Only the goats that you got after the data download will count when you jump.

Teak
03-29-2016, 02:54 PM
The ones I got after the download are not counting either.....what's more if I visit my Mini's guild and then come back home.....some of my goats disappeare ��

Karatefrog
03-29-2016, 05:01 PM
Only the goats that you got after the data download will count when you jump.

That's what I thought too, but I'm in my own guild and my contribution actually dropped from 9 down to 2 when we leveled. If I had 9 before, why would it only give me 2 after we leveled?
And when I did jump the drops seemed to be completely random. One guild received my entire stock, where others would get anywhere from 0-3 (and all of my jumps were done after the push)

Frothypython
03-29-2016, 07:53 PM
I have a toon that has not left the guild for months. It is the toon that leveled us. Once we leveled, the 7 goats he had ceased to appear in the guild quest. When he earned another goat, only that one shows up in the guild quest.

JamieF
03-29-2016, 11:25 PM
I really dont understand the way Gree thinks:
- You liked that LTQ? We're gonna make it so hard you cannot finish it without heavy gemming.
- Ah, now Epic Boss is your favourite? We're gonna make it so hard you won't like it at all anymore
- Now you like Raid Boss? Whoops, no orbs for you mate.
- Oh you're European? Screw that, here are some haste quest you'll miss
- Ah jumping is making the community happy? We're not gonna count the jumping drops.

It must be fun somehow.

DragCro
03-30-2016, 12:58 AM
I really dont understand the way Gree thinks:
- You liked that LTQ? We're gonna make it so hard you cannot finish it without heavy gemming.
- Ah, now Epic Boss is your favourite? We're gonna make it so hard you won't like it at all anymore
- Now you like Raid Boss? Whoops, no orbs for you mate.
- Oh you're European? Screw that, here are some haste quest you'll miss
- Ah jumping is making the community happy? We're not gonna count the jumping drops.

It must be fun somehow.
I totally agree with you about this.
It would be good if any of developers respond to this thread

Kween Zoey
03-30-2016, 04:44 PM
Gree just ruined the last thing I like about this game.

First they ruined Raid Boss

Then they messed with war

Jumping has been one of my most favorite parts of the game. ������

War player
03-31-2016, 12:52 AM
I really dont understand the way Gree thinks:
- You liked that LTQ? We're gonna make it so hard you cannot finish it without heavy gemming.
- Ah, now Epic Boss is your favourite? We're gonna make it so hard you won't like it at all anymore
- Now you like Raid Boss? Whoops, no orbs for you mate.
- Oh you're European? Screw that, here are some haste quest you'll miss
- Ah jumping is making the community happy? We're not gonna count the jumping drops.

It must be fun somehow.

I think this is a big social experiment. Get you liking the game so you spend money. Once hooked, see how much pain you can take and still spend money. :(

sdunn00
03-31-2016, 09:00 AM
Frankly....in light of collecting golems...a gem required guild event....this is Gree's attempt to stop unit transfer so they get their revenues. Gem required item collection is a greedy revenue grab & should be left to the individual questline only. Just another item in a building list to think about leaving the game....

Jnsolberg
03-31-2016, 05:59 PM
I really dont understand the way Gree thinks:
- You liked that LTQ? We're gonna make it so hard you cannot finish it without heavy gemming.
- Ah, now Epic Boss is your favourite? We're gonna make it so hard you won't like it at all anymore
- Now you like Raid Boss? Whoops, no orbs for you mate.
- Oh you're European? Screw that, here are some haste quest you'll miss
- Ah jumping is making the community happy? We're not gonna count the jumping drops.

It must be fun somehow.

Gree, you may think that if you stop jumping, that you will make more money.

You're wrong!

The smaller guilds love jumping, it's the only way they can complete guild quests. The chat rooms come alive during jumping events. In fact we've had to make separate rooms because jumping was taking over every chat.

It jumping stops working, a large percentage of your customers have one less thing that they enjoy about KA.
Whatever you did to make jumping erratic, please get it fixed or you may not have many players left.

Gendur
04-01-2016, 02:06 AM
it is confirmed, jumping does NOT work, the indy reward only counts in the guild where it was earned and does NOT transfer to any new guild when jumping

Last time the final level for guild required 60 to finish indy RB. So only guilds with 60 slots and 60 active participating players can finish now

Jnsolberg
04-01-2016, 02:43 AM
it is confirmed, jumping does NOT work, the indy reward only counts in the guild where it was earned and does NOT transfer to any new guild when jumping

Last time the final level for guild required 60 to finish indy RB. So only guilds with 60 slots and 60 active participating players can finish now

We're a top 5 guild. We have 60 peeps, but we've had a death in the family, we had Disney vacations, we have real life issues. Doubtful that we have all 60 complete the Indy.

Gree, this is really stupid, you're ruining the game (again), and this one may actually kill it.

Lord Vyper
04-01-2016, 10:08 AM
We're a top 5 guild. We have 60 peeps, but we've had a death in the family, we had Disney vacations, we have real life issues. Doubtful that we have all 60 complete the Indy.

Gree, this is really stupid, you're ruining the game (again), and this one may actually kill it.

totally agree.... and as a founder I will not boot those members that can not finish the indi part because of RL issues. We can not finish the guild event that way which will not make us happy - and this is another step in killing the game.

DragCro
04-01-2016, 10:24 AM
Gree, you may think that if you stop jumping, that you will make more money.

You're wrong!

The smaller guilds love jumping, it's the only way they can complete guild quests. The chat rooms come alive during jumping events. In fact we've had to make separate rooms because jumping was taking over every chat.

It jumping stops working, a large percentage of your customers have one less thing that they enjoy about KA.
Whatever you did to make jumping erratic, please get it fixed or you may not have many players left.
I agree here with him.
Please undo what you done Gree and make jumping possible again

sdunn00
04-01-2016, 11:31 AM
I agree....this is seriously messed up....we have a healthy & active guild of 52 with a capacity for 58....how is a requirement of 60 units attainable even if we were all full & members at 100% available? What a frustrating exercise in futility fro many guilds. Just another reason for me to question yet again if I even want to continue playing. This may very well be my last straw...

War player
04-01-2016, 12:58 PM
I guess the top teams don't want others to complete this. No other reason for Gree to do this. $$$ rule.

DragCro
04-01-2016, 01:39 PM
@gree development team or who ever makes decisions on things as this one ,i am posting this to you.

I am not here to complain because i like to complain,i don't do that.
My posts are mostly constructive and helpful and i am not posting this about my guild or any other guild that still have full guild,and belive me not to many guilds in top 10 are full,so you can imagine how many guilds underneath top 10 rank are half empty.
And you should know that because no new players that starts to play Ka we are forced to have two games at least one main and one mini that helps us to finish quests so that is double work for us to help guild .

With this changes that you did and intentionally killed jumping you made sad lots of people,they are sad and angry at same time.

I like to help people as most of the players like to help each other,isn't that a big part of kindness and humanity ? That is in human nature .

That part hold this game together and you are really trying to push people away from this game by killing it.

Please don't ruin this game with fixing things that doesn't need to be fixed.

Some things should stay as it is because that part of helping others is the biggest part in game that we like.

It is not here about me or my guild mates i am speaking in the name of all small guilds that need help,don't drive them out from this game.

Losing players and guilds we lose and guilds for matching at war event,if players are gone the only thing is left to shut down the game and I don't believe that you want that as i don't want that too.

We post this things to you because we care about players and the game.

So please make a new data push and return the way as it was.

And belive me you can make money in other events,you dont need each event to be gem required.

Be smart and try to think on us and not just on profit,because without us players no money for you,no players no profit = no game

The Battle Mage
04-01-2016, 02:23 PM
I guess the top teams don't want others to complete this. No other reason for Gree to do this. $$$ rule.

Speaking as a member of a "Top Team"
My guild is not in cahoots with Gree and is not in support of killing off jumping, one of the most sociable and enjoyable aspects of the game.
Probably best to stick to known facts and avoid unnecessary conjecture which only serves to detract from the main issue.

Frostpocket
04-02-2016, 01:02 AM
I find it quite upsetting that GREE has removed the jumping transfer of units for this event. People play KA for the social element of the game too and for me and I'm sure many, jumping is about helping others and sharing the experience, so that fewer member guilds may also take part in that experience. Smaller guilds aren't jumping to dodge GREE; they do it because you've made the prize unachievable for so many, despite their spending and hard work, simply based on size. This is discriminatory. Many of us lead hectic and often experience bad things in life. Being part of the KA community is a lifeline for many.

That you unilaterally take this element away and act in a totally arbitrary way, in what seems to be purely based on greed, is quite astonishing.

I can see why guilds aren't full and if you carry on GREE, you'll only have yourselves to blame. You ought to be ashamed!

The red Baron
04-02-2016, 01:26 AM
A lot of the top 10 teams like jumping to help sister guilds and old friends.
I am in TRT Top 4.

Jnsolberg
04-02-2016, 06:28 AM
A lot of the top 10 teams like jumping to help sister guilds and old friends.
I am in TRT Top 4.

Same here with AoF Heroes (top 5 three wars in a row)

Every guild likes jumping. It adds fun to the game

jureidinij
04-02-2016, 04:10 PM
Same here with AoF Heroes (top 5 three wars in a row)

Every guild likes jumping. It adds fun to the game

The best part of this game was "The Jumping" ,this will be a terrible mistake.

Zepson
04-03-2016, 02:47 AM
It's not the issue of jumping works or not but the fact that all 60 are needed to get the final reward that is ridiculous.
There are still guilds with less than 60 members.
45 for 4/5 is OK. But 5/5 should be 52 or there about, this is already difficult enough.

hekfhelgh
04-05-2016, 11:11 AM
Gree, bring jumping back to the game!

This is the most funny part of the game and give the game a social touch.
We are a family of five guilds which helps each other and develop new players in our lower level guild.

We want to do this in future and give KA a valid player basis.

DragCro
04-05-2016, 11:54 AM
@Gree development team,i will tell you now what did you do with this raid boss and no jumping..
Now guild leaders are thinking to kick out those players that didnt finish indi part that is tied with finishing and guild part.You made impossible this event,we need to chose between the reward or our friends.
You really think that those that are kicked out from guild will return in the guild back? Most likely they will retire their games totally and because of what? Because you made event that all 60 members need to participate to finish it.That is for most of the guilds impossible and frustrating.
You are killing joy to play this game.
Belive me if i didn't have my friends in this game i would say goodbye to this and delete the game from my phone.It doesn't worth to get upset because you dev team don't think on us at all how this changes or difficulties affects us.

So people will leave,some will be booted,some will get upset about it etc,some will work guild with guild to try to finish it and again who will lose in all of this are those players that are left behind,those that because of you will retire totally from this game

Scarlet Heart
04-13-2016, 05:55 AM
If it ain't broke, why play around with it? Leave it as it was and fix the other issues that customers have been asking for for years