When will Jeb! Bush drop out?

[I Love Money]

His campaign has been a total disaster and he just embarrassed himself even more at the last debate. His weak attack on Marco Rubio was the final nail in the coffin on his campaign.

[Vile Lynn]

It's pretty sad. He should enjoy his time with Daddy Bush and stop stressing him out.

I'm still waiting for Cruz to withdrawal, but it looks like he'll be wasting more money for a few more months.

[Dipstik]

Cruz is like a wildcard NFL team in the playoffs where all the top ranked teams have serious injuries hampering them. He might not be leading now, but he's in a very good position. You were wrong a couple months ago, and you're wrong now. There's a very good chance Cruz will end up being the nominee. It's really a question of whether when the actual votes start coming in people will want a total outsider (trump/carson/fiorina), a reformer (cruz/rubio) or an establishment insider (Bush/Kasich). I think Cruz is in the strongest position of the "reformer" group, which means he could easily become the front runner at any time. He's not dropping out any time soon.

[Vile Lynn]

The year isn't over (duh), so I'm not wrong now or yet :p

[Dipstik]

it looks like he'll be wasting more money for a few more months.

Since it's Guy Fawkes day, I assumed this was a concession that you were wrong and was accepting it as such. If it's not, I'll hold my gloating for slightly less than a few more months.

[Vile Lynn]

heh, fair enough, but I'll make you wait until Dec. 31st. Gloating can begin next year.

Happy Guy Fawkes Night!
http://images.csmonitor.com/csmarchives/2010/11/1106-usa-fawkes.jpg?alias=standard_300x200

[Dipstik]

Hey VL... If those people you messaged me about a couple weeks ago are still homeless, my syn apparently has some room now. PM me if you want to talk about it.

[sister morphine]

His campaign has been a total disaster and he just embarrassed himself even more at the last debate. His weak attack on Marco Rubio was the final nail in the coffin on his campaign.
Does his name really have a ! at the end? Lol

[Dipstik]

His name isn't even Jeb. Obama didn't pull a Prince and turn his into a symbol either.

[Max Power]

Cruz is like a wildcard NFL team in the playoffs where all the top ranked teams have serious injuries hampering them. He might not be leading now, but he's in a very good position. You were wrong a couple months ago, and you're wrong now. There's a very good chance Cruz will end up being the nominee. It's really a question of whether when the actual votes start coming in people will want a total outsider (trump/carson/fiorina), a reformer (cruz/rubio) or an establishment insider (Bush/Kasich). I think Cruz is in the strongest position of the "reformer" group, which means he could easily become the front runner at any time. He's not dropping out any time soon.

No way Cruz finishes ahead of Rubio. No friggin way.

[Red BD]

All I can say is that it must be real depressing in Kennebunkport these days. I can see George Jr jabbing away at "JEB" about his failures,

Jeb's crying, George Jr is laughing, Pop is trying to get the boys to shoot at each other with the Red Ryder's he stuck in their stockings (mumbling drunkenly on Christmas Morning how it will make "leaders" out of them while forcing them out into the snow with his .45).

Meanwhile, Barb, yes good old Barb, the only one of the Bush Bunch arguably qualified to be President decides to try and help the servants make waffles.

[Dipstik]

Ted Cruz will drop out before the year ends.

"Someone" *cough* locked the thread you posted this in, so I had to do my gloating here instead of just bumping it.

[Max Power]

Cruz is polling pretty well and Rubio seems to be an idiot. I might have to eat my words, although when the rubber hits the road, I think normal voters are almost as scared of Cruz as they are Trump.

[Dipstik]

Normal voters don't know anything about Cruz. CONGRESS is more scared of him than trump, though, which is why I like him.

[LüK€¥]

Trump for President!!

[Evan1000]

Obama 4 third term

[Dipstik]

Obama 4 third term

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[Asymmetric]

Someone needs to tell Jeb it's not happening.

[xWolfSlayerx]

Someone needs to tell Jeb it's not happening.

His father will, especially with that legacy passed on to him from his father, an excuse of a president.

[xWolfSlayerx]

Obama 4 third term

That stamenet is no different from "Jeb Bush for president". Just stop with the trolling, and people might start to respect you more and thinkmof you as more of that.

[Max Power]

Well, Gary Johnson just declared for the Libertarian Party, so once again I can vote with my conscious.

[Dipstik]

Conscience. Also... Lol.

[LüK€¥]

Conscience. Also... Lol.

Name change to Grammar Nazi?

[Winnson]

How much money has he gone through on this campaign already? Maybe 200 million? LOL!

Rock on Jeb. Good luck trying to stump the Trump.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/28/18/2AE8A93B00000578-3177674-image-a-7_1438104072404.jpg

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[LüK€¥]

How much money has he gone through on this campaign already? Maybe 200 million? LOL!

Rock on Jeb. Good luck trying to stump the Trump.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/28/18/2AE8A93B00000578-3177674-image-a-7_1438104072404.jpg

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If Trump stands beside Scarlett Johansson he's won...

[xWolfSlayerx]

How much money has he gone through on this campaign already? Maybe 200 million? LOL!

Rock on Jeb. Good luck trying to stump the Trump.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/28/18/2AE8A93B00000578-3177674-image-a-7_1438104072404.jpg

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Doubt that'll happen though...

[Winnson]

I don't think The Don ever planned on signing on the dotted line, but his little establishment attempt at curing voter apathy really has taken off. Imagine if he really decides to go for it and he's not just a puppet when he gets in?

That would be awesome.

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[Vile Lynn]

...and you're wrong now. There's a very good chance Cruz will end up being the nominee. I think Cruz is in the strongest position of the "reformer" group, which means he could easily become the front runner at any time. He's not dropping out any time soon.


"Someone" *cough* locked the thread you posted this in, so I had to do my gloating here instead of just bumping it.


You are right. Cruz is hanging in there, playing it pretty safe. Good for him!

*shudders*

[xWolfSlayerx]

You are right. Cruz is hanging in there, playing it pretty safe. Good for him!

*shudders*

Welcome back, lol.

[Dipstik]

You are right.

Very right, it seems.

[Winnson]

I think Bush will hang around to the third caucus, whatever that is.

It don't matter though, American politricks are beyond rigged anyway. Whoever is chosen will get in.

Iowa was a joke, on both sides:

Hilary 6 coin tosses in a row - and the delegate decided on coin tosses, LOL!
Cruz saying Carson was pulling out, and sending out 'voter responsibility' mailers that looked like traffic citations
90 Dem precincts not reporting their tallies
RUBIO OUT OF NOWHERE! THANKS MICROSOFT!!

Coke or Pepsi will be the choices when it is all said and done. Trump sucked me in again, but after Iowa, it all came rushing back to me.

The system is broken beyond repair.

[Vile Lynn]

Very right, it seems.

Nah, just simply right.

Hopefully, it's a temporary condition. I'm ready for it all to be over.

[Evan1000]

That stamenet is no different from "Jeb Bush for president". Just stop with the trolling, and people might start to respect you more and thinkmof you as more of that.

I lol'd. You're in a position to talk?

*inserts popcorn gif here*

[I Love Money]

R.I.P.....

[Vile Lynn]

Yup! Bush threw in the towel! Soooooo...

Who is next to go?
Probably not Cruz or Rubio.

Political analysts don't think Crus or Rubio have much of a chance in Texas against Trump. Idk much about Rubio, but Cruz is not very popular here... After losing once, Cruz finally won his seat by being the lesser of two evils.

[I Love Money]

Carson's gotta be the next one out.

[Max Power]

Carson should have been out caucuses ago. Kasich, sadly, may be out after March 1st. He appears to be the only sane one left. I think Rubio will pull away from Cruz, even though he is an absentee empty suit that only remembers talking points. Cruz has an eminently punchable face. He runs a dirty campaign, in spite of the smoke show of the recent firing. Most in the party are falling in behind Rubio, where most the Jeb money is going. All those people who said Obama was unqualified when he took office are now going to have to admit hypocrisy.

To me, the only question is whether the GOP figures out that Trump is going to win while they still have time to prevent it. They behaving like they haven't figured it out yet.

There aren't enough millennials and people believing everything is free to boost Sanders into the nomination. I predict either Trump vs Hillary or Rubio vs Hillary at this point. Not much of a stretch, I suppose.

As much of a trainwreck as this has been, it has been fascinating as well. It is very clear there is nobody in charge over in GOP land. When you field 17 candidates, you pave the road for the Trumps and the Cruzes to do well, both candidates that they are scared to death of.

[Dipstik]

Yup! Bush threw in the towel! Soooooo...

Who is next to go?
Probably not Cruz or Rubio.

Political analysts don't think Crus or Rubio have much of a chance in Texas against Trump. Idk much about Rubio, but Cruz is not very popular here... After losing once, Cruz finally won his seat by being the lesser of two evils.

You do realize Cruz is leading in Texas by about six points, and trump has underperformed his poll numbers in every state so far. Do you even pay attention or just hate Cruz and make stuff up?

Max: you're right... No ones in charge. Candidates campaign and voters vote. What would you prefer... A system where a bunch of party insiders get together and make sure the "right" candidate gets the most delegates despite losing the primary?

[Vile Lynn]

You do realize Cruz is leading in Texas by about six points, and trump has underperformed his poll numbers in every state so far. Do you even pay attention or just hate Cruz and make stuff up?

uh huh... that's why Cruz is doing so well, eh? :rolleyes: Cruz couldn't even beat Rubio in Nevada. I'm sure that mystified Camp Cruz.

Meh, I don't seriously pay attention or hate Cruz enough to make up anything. I just repeated what the political analyst said on GMA yesterday morning. This morning they said Cruz will have to win Texas or it's the end for him. *shrugs*

Btw, I googled and now the polls say Cruz is up by eight points in Texas.
Good for him! Maybe he has a chance on Super Tuesday. ;)

[Max Power]

Max: you're right... No ones in charge. Candidates campaign and voters vote. What would you prefer... A system where a bunch of party insiders get together and make sure the "right" candidate gets the most delegates despite losing the primary?

Well, most of our great presidents have come through the system that way. It sounds worse on paper than it really is. There used to be at the very least, a consensus within each party that at least kept the number of candidates to a manageable size. 17 candidates is not a manageable size, hell, 7 is too many. The result is that most of what America learns of the candidates is sparsely available 30 second debate stage sound bytes. The perfect arena where the most outrageous statements get noticed, and sane people become invisible. If you want the most extreme candidates in your party to shine, this is the perfect formula. The top 3 that have survived are an carnival barker in Trump, an absentee empty suit in Rubio, and an obstructionist tea bagger in Cruz. Out of the hundreds of possible candidates in GOP, we have 3 that should be finishing in the bottom third.

That's what happens when you don't manage your house.

[Dipstik]

The democrats have a socialist, former USSR sympathizer and a corrupt felon running. The "super delegates" that you suggest should be the firewall against voter choice are backing the felon. Just sayin.

Also, Ted Cruz is brilliant and knows more about the constitution and its importance to protecting us from government than almost anyone alive. If you want to boil that down to "obstructionist," that's fine. It's been almost sixty years since we had a president who didn't think his own power was unlimited. Bring on the obstruction.

Fwiw, I was a walker guy. Now I'll take anyone not named trump.

[Vile Lynn]

O M G !

Now I know why you love Cruz!


aww.... constitutional love. That's so cute!


#smuglove

[Dipstik]

O M G !

Now I know why you love Cruz!


aww.... constitutional love. That's so cute!

#smuglove

Yeah, some of us still think it's important. Too few, unfortunately. I figure the republic only has one generation left. Once you elect a strongman (trump) or a socialist (Obama), it's usually too late to go back. If the president really DOESN'T want to stay within the limits of his own power, there's not much anyone can do to stop him. Also, once power is seized, you can never really take it back.

I'm just wondering how it's all going to end.

[Max Power]

The term "socialist" is thrown around pretty randomly, conveniently forgetting the truth that any form of taxation and redistribution is by definition "socialism". All of us are socialists, it's just when someone wants to take it up a notch, they get branded with the term like it's a swear word. Most people objecting to Bernie wanting to tax the 1% to pay for college conveniently forget they are advocates of taxing everybody for their own causes, be it military, ag subsidies, or whatever their pet cause is. I am not a fan of Bernie, what he suggests will never fly, any more than Trump building a wall, but let's get real here. Our whole construct is built on a version of socialism.

Cruz, and most like him, fancy themselves as constitutionists, and that is fine. Protect gun rights, free speech etc....oh, wait, anchor babies? We must amend the constitution! They are mostly people who use the constitution conveniently to prop up their causes, until they don't. Most are pure hypocrites. Cruz also tends to confuse religion with policy. That is a dangerous tonic.

And Walker has a stellar record of taking on those overpaid teachers and firefighters, busting contracts, and no job growth. He wants to ban EPA regulation on power plants, overturn gay marriage, ban abortions, thinks $7.25 is an accurate minimum wage, and wants to gut open records laws. Awesome. I agree with some of his stances, don't believe $15 is the answer to minimum wage, but this guy has way too many issues to be in charge of anything. Wisconsin is not better for having him. The Koch brothers, of course, disagree.

You do have a point on the super delegates backing a felon. It's not a perfect system. But then 17 candidates boiling down to Cruz, Trump and Rubio is not either. And if you ask most voters about all this choice, most will wonder how the hell we got here with these three, me included.

[Vile Lynn]

We'll watch the debate tonight and vote tomorrow (early).

[Dipstik]

There's a very strong legal argument that the 14th amendment does not confer birthright citizenship on the children of illegal immigrants, and the Supreme Court has never decided the issue. Id pay good money to listen to Ted Cruz argue the case.

[bstewar6]

There's a very strong legal argument that the 14th amendment does not confer birthright citizenship on the children of illegal immigrants, and the Supreme Court has never decided the issue. Id pay good money to listen to Ted Cruz argue the case.

I'd pay good money to listen to someone like Ben Carson's View on this matter. I don't really like any of the candidates this year, but it doesn't matter since i don't vote anyways.

[Max Power]

There's a very strong legal argument that the 14th amendment does not confer birthright citizenship on the children of illegal immigrants, and the Supreme Court has never decided the issue. Id pay good money to listen to Ted Cruz argue the case.

Canadian Cruz would certainly have first hand experience with it.....LOL!

[Dipstik]

Prior to reading your other posts on this thread, I'd assume you're making a joke. Now I suppose I should ask... you do realize that he's a natural born american citizen, right?

[Max Power]

Prior to reading your other posts on this thread, I'd assume you're making a joke. Now I suppose I should ask... you do realize that he's a natural born american citizen, right?

Yes, I was making a joke. Trump was a birther and now he is going after Cruz. There is plenty to go after Cruz on without wasting the courts time on this nonsense. What other posts on this thread would suggest that I do not understand how that law works? Or are you suggesting that since I am no fan of Cruz I do not have the ability to understand basic citizenship laws?

I see constitutionalist Cruz is siding with the feds on the Apple issue. Yay 4th amendment! (When convenient, of course)

[Dipstik]

Good to know it was a joke. Online it's often hard to tell who seriously believes something and who's mocking it. "Tea bagger" was the part that made me wonder.

I dunno if Cruz has spoken on the apple thing. I could see it either way. I'm firmly on apples side, personally. What are they going to do, jail someone for contempt for not writing code for you?

I wonder if they've tried using the dead guys thumbprint...

[Vile Lynn]

Meanwhile... look out... Trump picked up another endorsement!

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[Max Power]

Good to know it was a joke. Online it's often hard to tell who seriously believes something and who's mocking it. "Tea bagger" was the part that made me wonder.

I dunno if Cruz has spoken on the apple thing. I could see it either way. I'm firmly on apples side, personally. What are they going to do, jail someone for contempt for not writing code for you?

I wonder if they've tried using the dead guys thumbprint...

He actually did speak to it, which is why I mentioned it. I am actually surprised at what I am seeing on that one, I see more Dems siding with Apple, and more Pubs siding with the Feds than I ever thought possible. Based on past behavior, I would have guessed the opposite.

I think if Apple could just unlock the one phone, 99% of the people would be for it, as it is just a simple search warrant. Since re-writing the code effects many others, it seems to be more of a 4th amendment issue. Except in China, of course, where Apple is keenly aware there is no 4th amendment over there. That and it has become their biggest market.

[Vile Lynn]

Oh happy day!
"Lucifer in the flesh" is OUT! Thank you, Indiana!
I was off by 4 months; better late then never, ha!

Now, if we could only get Cruz out of Texas & return his intolerant, homophobic, obstructionist butt back to Canada!
I'm not holding my breath though... *still gloating* :cool:

#smug

[Dipstik]

Congrats. I didn't hate you enough to hope you got the president you deserve, but it looks like it happened anyway. I'd say I hope at least you (liberals) learn something from it, but recent history suggests that you won't.

[Max Power]

Um....what?