Interesting WD

[Apollo13]

Almost 1 day is over but only 2000+ factions did war. However, reward is for top 10,000 teams. For individual, rewards is given out for top 40,000 players but only 37,500 players did hit something so far.not to mention, division reward is given out to top 2,000 teams but only slightly over 500 teams showing.

Gree, is this a sign?

[bam bam.]

That says to me people are leaving but no one is joining. If you need 10 trillion in stats to be competitive but they offer units with 100k stats well why would you stick around?. The balance is gone, the fun is no more. Look at the leaderboards and the points through the tiers, it's only the whales spending. I am taking screen shots of my base as I don't think this is sustainable for much longer.

[bam bam.]

Also Atk n def rewards... Why bother?

[sstuutss]

900 points and I'm sub 27k. SUP here I come

[Agent Orange]

900 points and I'm sub 27k. SUP here I come

It is pretty dismal in the under top 500 right now. I've taken my C faction out for one battle and am in the top 800. The faction I hit never did anything just sat there. I saw that a lot last WD sounds like this is worse.

Oh well I started 3 BB players yesterday, game is rather simplistic but a lot better in many other ways.

[Tee]

Finding BB is pretty cool also.

[J-manKometh96]

I haven't done anything yet. But someone was nice enough to attack me once and lose. That one defensive win currently has me in the top 30k.

[Area51z]

our faction did 3 battles with only a third participating . We are in the top 600, 200 in division , and main player is in top 600 ind . Growing my CoC base. ....don't know why, seems my gaming phase may be nearing its end. Travel sounds good........

[good gawd noooo]

this is starting to sound like when you put a fresh coat of paint on and it looks great while wet.. but gree is all dryed up now and you see the final look.. and they not liking it after all

[Agent Orange]

this is starting to sound like when you put a fresh coat of paint on and it looks great while wet.. but gree is all dryed up now and you see the final look.. and they not liking it after all

Sure does, took out my B faction, 2 battles and in the top 700, the micro faction with 3 battles and three wins is top 1000. Just going to see what will happen with A. My B faction of 14 players got matched to a 31 player faction and slaughtered them. Seems like factions are declaring even if nobody is online.

[Plutorules]

I believe people are tired of WD simply takes to long time. 72 hrs. Where you can battle almost all the time. People don't want to.

[Danger Mouse]

Tick, tick, tick, tick.....

The final countdown. If their biggest money spinner in WD is failing, can't be long now.

[Flash0810]

Here is the sad part that I see. I have a faction that I have almost maxed out with 1 account. I have 3 players in there. After 1 day and 768 points I was around the 3k ranking! Did 1 more battle to score another 6k and push myself towards the 2k mark and a decent rank in the division. I can really see this game slowly fading away as many gold spenders have either retired from the game or either pulled out of the high gold spending. Glad I am spending my time on Clash now.....

[DEWIN NUTTIN]

I hope everyone enjoys this WD.
I have been AWOL for about a week now.
I'm working on AWOL for 31 days to attain DESERTER status.
I no longer care what happens to or in this THINGY.
For those that DEW care, bon chance!

[Apollo13]

One day and 6hrs gone and division still only showing top 1000 and reward in division is for top 1500. 873 war points and it earns you a spot in top 4,000 faction overall. And 629 wp gets top 40,000 Indi reward.

[bam bam.]

I believe people are tired of WD simply takes to long time. 72 hrs. Where you can battle almost all the time. People don't want to.

I think 3 days is good, 4 is too long. But when war was good all cycle we would work our buts off to be the best we could be because war was where it was at, it had all the good boosts and was a lot of fun. Now you get Atk/def which don't mean a thing and are simply not fun.

[Cannot Connect To Server]

now its tiring...match ups are stupid and prizes are trash except for lower teams... do any of the units make top 25+ teams stats or just the highest to ur lowest or do u play for the boost?

id rather hv something worth while fighting for weve bot had any great prizes or goals or anything fun for long time.

[fatbodychris]

The energy regen was a good bonus to go after while it was around. Yes I know it's not there anymore for regular prizes or division, but it was while it lasted.

[Apollo13]

OMG! Day 3 and we still don't have 1500 teams taking up the division rewards. Is this the end?

[DEWIN NUTTIN]

OMG! Day 3 and we still don't have 1500 teams taking up the division rewards. Is this the end?


I see Big Mama approaching the podium.

[Flash0810]

I have very little points and not too far outside the Top 500! If I really tried I could make it inside the Top 500 with only my 3 accounts! I'm like you, I ain't Dewin Nuttin at the moment - apart from my new found amusement of Clash of Clans.

[groovy shags]

Who won, and by how many points? I missed sportscenter earlier today.

[Flash0810]

I was in 2-3 wars and made the Top 750 in Division and around the Top 2200 in all factions. And had VERY low points. So win, win. This WD has shown just how many players and teams have left the game.

[Agent Orange]

I was in 2-3 wars and made the Top 750 in Division and around the Top 2200 in all factions. And had VERY low points. So win, win. This WD has shown just how many players and teams have left the game.

Indeed, played my 3 test factions.

A made it into the top 700 with 3 battles and top 180 in division with 16 members. B made it into the top 800 with 4 battles and top 200 in division also with 16 members. C made it into the top 1000 with 8 wins no losses and top 300 in it's division with 9 low level low stat players. My weakest player a level 2 that ended at level 6 ranked at 37771.

None of my factions lost a single battle even though several matchups should have been lost had the rivals faction members actually been online to participate. For the last 3-4 WDs many low ranking factions are making the same fatal mistake or they just don't really care since prize tiers are way to wide below top 500.

[sstuutss]

Indeed, played 3 factions.
By that standard there are only 1k active players ;)

Crazy stuff AO

[Agent Orange]

By that standard there are only 1k active players ;)

Crazy stuff AO

Haaaa! Sure felt like it!

[Danger Mouse]

I wonder how many actual humans are still playing, given the number of minis out there.
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And as for downloads per month......... 95% of those are reboots trying to fix bugs for sure.

[Helios Von Elisar]

Our group won 58 battles, I jumped about 30 billion during WD. I had a good time and we placed under 100. No gold spent, though some members used some. Our faction participation was pretty good. Maybe a change of scenery would help some of our players who seem to be in dead factions. There's life out there, you have to go look for it. No moss grows on a rolling stone.

[Speed ump]

Helios, some of these people don't want to look for the positives. They purposely look for the negatives. Dew, you've been saying that about big mama for four years now. Some day you will be right, so just keep posting it now and then.

[sstuutss]

Our group won 58 battles, I jumped about 30 billion during WD. I had a good time and we placed under 100. No gold spent, though some members used some. Our faction participation was pretty good. Maybe a change of scenery would help some of our players who seem to be in dead factions. There's life out there, you have to go look for it. No moss grows on a rolling stone.
You know thats not a good sign right?

[Danger Mouse]

Our group won 58 battles, I jumped about 30 billion during WD. I had a good time and we placed under 100. No gold spent, though some members used some. Our faction participation was pretty good. Maybe a change of scenery would help some of our players who seem to be in dead factions. There's life out there, you have to go look for it. No moss grows on a rolling stone.

And the academy award for greatest irony in a thread discussing how high rank for no cost due to extremely low participation signals the end of Grees biggest money spinner, goes to...........

[Danger Mouse]

Helios, some of these people don't want to look for the positives. They purposely look for the negatives. Dew, you've been saying that about big mama for four years now. Some day you will be right, so just keep posting it now and then.


This one, the judges thought the level of obliviousness went beyond all requirements to secure the award.

[Speed ump]

Danger, seems like you don't care for the obvious being pointed out. When someone posts something that dosnt agree with your views, you attack them. So what does that say about you, and the other doing that. So he's not entitled to post his perspective and what he has seen firsthand, because it's not negative enough and don't jive with your views? It's one thing to post your negativity, since it's your own individual option, but you guys seem to feel the need to attack others who post something other than your own way of thinking.

[J-manKometh96]

Yes DM, how dare you agree with the facts the numbers support and speak out to those that are unable to comprehend that?

[Danger Mouse]

Danger, seems like you don't care for the obvious being pointed out. When someone posts something that dosnt agree with your views, you attack them. So what does that say about you, and the other doing that. So he's not entitled to post his perspective and what he has seen firsthand, because it's not negative enough and don't jive with your views? It's one thing to post your negativity, since it's your own individual option, but you guys seem to feel the need to attack others who post something other than your own way of thinking.

Righto genius, please explain how a team getting Top 100 using light gold, if any - an obvious sign that participation is down the toilet for anyone with eyes to see - is a positive thing for Grees business model of relentless revenue? And given we all know how gree are truely only interested in revenue, can you please explain how the slow death of their biggest money earner is a positive thing for the long term viability of the game? 100 words or less please. We are all waiting for your positive analysis of how it's all rosey. Smart a--

[Speed ump]

I see you're the genius, because your lips were moving. Nice. Quit belittling people and you might get more respect than you get for being a troll. I'm sure that helps make everything better, not.

[Speed ump]

Let's go back to that arrogant comment made a short time ago. Let's look at the posts and see who is defining who is right and who is wrong for their opinions. Yes, I do think we can see from this who the ones here are truly sitting on their high horse

[Brown Out]

Relax guys, when this game ends you can start playing Candy Crush like the rest of the soccer moms.

[Danger Mouse]

Ah, Mr Pot. Still no comment or opinion I see on whether or not getting top 100 for free, possibly for the first time in the history of the game, is a good sign. Could it be that once painted into a corner, getting out becomes somewhat messy and undignified?

[Speed ump]

Mouse, ir I could decipher what you're saying and why it's relevant to anything I care about, I might be able to answer your question. It sounds very much like you asked why did the chicken cross the road.

[Danger Mouse]

Mouse, ir I could decipher what you're saying and why it's relevant to anything I care about, I might be able to answer your question. It sounds very much like you asked why did the chicken cross the road.

well, funny how others picked it up apparently without a hitch.

You really crack me up, mr serious ;-P.

Maybe you could try reading a thread before "contributing", just a suggestion. Even just scanning to get the general gist before leaping in would go a long way. You should really give it a try, might help your apparent confusion no end.

[Speed ump]

Mouse, yes you might just do that. All you guys seem to do is post negative comments about sup, or anyone who doesn't agree with you. That's the definition of a troll. And yes most of my posts are in response to you trolls negative attacks. You're just upset that someone actually stops you from running rampant without any rebuttal to your trolling.

[Big John]

What's your contribution to this forum, at least the so called trolls are amusing but you are a pain in the butt.

[G level 87]

I quit a long time ago because it was obvious that Gree was a company that didn't care about their product and it was bound to fail. It's sad to see what started as such a fun game turn into what it has. Just came back to see what was happening and wasn't surprised to see that the game has turned to crap. Companies need to start paying attention to their customers. Gree failed miserably with this game and it sucks for the people that invested time and money.

[Mariana Ardonain]

thanks..........!

[Danger Mouse]

Mouse, yes you might just do that. All you guys seem to do is post negative comments about sup, or anyone who doesn't agree with you. That's the definition of a troll. And yes most of my posts are in response to you trolls negative attacks. You're just upset that someone actually stops you from running rampant without any rebuttal to your trolling.

Dude, sorry to burst your self-inflatory bubble, but a rebuttal implies a debate, and a debate requires a cogent argument offering an alternate position. and I can't recall you ever posting anything other than dismissal of others as trolls - not once have you ever offered an argument worthy of the name. You remind me of John Cleese's argument character, only your funnier.

[Speed ump]

Debate? You're not capable of having a debate. That would require things like truth, facts, and logic. Smoke and mirrors, innuendos, lies, falsehoods, and gossip just don't work, therefor the troll moniker.

[J-manKometh96]

Yes DM, the number of people that participated in WD is all a lie you conjured up. You really should listen to him DM, he knows of what he speaks. No one does the smoke and mirrors as well as he.

So back to the original question that has been ignored by said Trollmaster. How is finishing top 100 gold free good for grees bottom line, and not a sign of a dying game?

[Big John]

Best to ignore him, biggest troll on here.

[Danger Mouse]

Debate? You're not capable of having a debate. That would require things like truth, facts, and logic. Smoke and mirrors, innuendos, lies, falsehoods, and gossip just don't work, therefor the troll moniker.

Ppffftttttttttttttt................. still having trouble mustering together enough thoughts for an argument I see. Do you have anything like a cogent line of logic? Or is it all just schoolyard name calling after all? Not even one attempt to answer any questions, because you have no answers, just parroting the same tired old lines.

So, I'll ask rather straight and forthright because I know you have issues with being easily confused.

Do you, or do you not, think that being able to get to top 100 for free in Grees biggest money earner event is a sign that the game is in good health? Considering we all think it's not a sign of good health, and get labelled as trolls by yourself for expressing such opinions, one would have to assume that you take a contrary stance and think everything is all roses. There, I've even given you your debate position, all you have to do is cut and paste if all else fails. Although something like a logical argument as to why you think that, presuming you think anything, would be a refreshing change. More of the same doesn't count.

Rebuttal, if capable of delivering one?

[Ajk]

He isn't DM. His sole purpose here is to call everyone names and rub everyone the wrong way until he gets what he wants, which is a closed thread that actually rings so far into the truth that he wants to make it disappear. You see, its bad for recruiting the next batch of "players" that make it happen for him and, well, you know who.

[Agent Orange]

Obviously isn't DM, the game is too tedious to be fun anymore but if folks can play for free and do that well then it looks good on gree. I would say based on what I saw with my test factions that most players no longer care and are coasting and not spending.

Didn't that other gree title that is shutting down have some sort of blow out like I am seeing with this latest and exceptionally tap excessive LTQ before gree fessed up and yanked the plug....

Sad really that it is coming to this, MW was a great game that attracted some great people but now it's just an empty shell.

[East Coast Bias]

Ppffftttttttttttttt................. still having trouble mustering together enough thoughts for an argument I see. Do you have anything like a cogent line of logic? Or is it all just schoolyard name calling after all? Not even one attempt to answer any questions, because you have no answers, just parroting the same tired old lines.

So, I'll ask rather straight and forthright because I know you have issues with being easily confused.

Do you, or do you not, think that being able to get to top 100 for free in Grees biggest money earner event is a sign that the game is in good health? Considering we all think it's not a sign of good health, and get labelled as trolls by yourself for expressing such opinions, one would have to assume that you take a contrary stance and think everything is all roses. There, I've even given you your debate position, all you have to do is cut and paste if all else fails. Although something like a logical argument as to why you think that, presuming you think anything, would be a refreshing change. More of the same doesn't count.

Rebuttal, if capable of delivering one?

Come on guys, if you are going to debate something, make sure you stick with the facts. He never said his team got t100 for free.

I'd rather ask gree to provide the final standing for the last WDE (which they promised in the past) and then use that data to see how points have changed even with the additional day and premium matches. So being analytical rather than using points of references that may or may not be accurate or useful. But I suspect that gree won't release this info for fear that the data does confirm the game is losing players/participation. Players throwing mud at each other doesn't really help.

[J-manKometh96]

Come on guys, if you are going to debate something, make sure you stick with the facts. He never said his team got t100 for free.


The claim was made here: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?116603-Interesting-WD&p=1517494&viewfull=1#post1517494
Yes, some gold by some members was mentioned, but that is a far cry from what was required in the past.

[East Coast Bias]

The claim was made here: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?116603-Interesting-WD&p=1517494&viewfull=1#post1517494
Yes, some gold by some members was mentioned, but that is a far cry from what was required in the past.

I know exactly what he said. To me, it's important that we don't have misinformation creep. Because in the end, you could have people claiming the top10 played for free too.

[Speed ump]

Danger, it's you and your cronies who call others names, and attack them for their opinions. Just look back at last several threads you guys have posted in. Every once in a while you actually say something normal, that makes some semblance of logical thinking. Because some players on a top 100 team spent no gold isn't a sign of much. Outlaws has been top 25 many times and has always had players who go gold free. I think we have all said , myself included, that the game has slowed down considerably, that more people have retired than new players coming in, and that there is less participation. This has been going on for nearly two years. If anyone think that agree will make any substantive changes to reverse that, they havnt paid attention. At this point those of us left are riding the train to its final destination, which will still be some time off. It's not happening today, tomorrow, or next month. Expect it to go through to next year. After that, who knows. I'd be very surprised to see it to make the following new year.

[Ajk]

I don't know (of course no one really does outside of Gree) when this game will end. They may ride it out until next year but that is really going to depend on their quarterly profits and the last quarter for this fiscal year doesn't show until well into next year, so you may be right. But they have a lot of work to do to right this sinking ship. Personally I think March madness stat inflation really screwed them in the long run. All the 10, 15, 20, 25% bonuses that they gave out in the long run they didn't factor in to the next wave of inflated unit stats to see where this would take the game. It made an already existing problem of not being able to catch up and ballooned it even more. Now what you see is the bonuses attached a whole lot lower now, and no one wants them, its not worth the effort.

[tigerlion]

Through next year? I'm still surprised that the game has not shutdown yet, with such low participation in the most profitable events, like WD and FL. Only the T25 are still mostly using gold. Between T25 and T50, only a quarter to one third of players use some gold, and below that, most don't use any. Just by the look of the forum, game is dying quick. Even Danimal has given up on walkthroughs for LTQs, Hellraiser quit the forum, etc.

[bam bam.]

I don't know (of course no one really does outside of Gree) when this game will end. They may ride it out until next year but that is really going to depend on their quarterly profits and the last quarter for this fiscal year doesn't show until well into next year, so you may be right. But they have a lot of work to do to right this sinking ship. Personally I think March madness stat inflation really screwed them in the long run. All the 10, 15, 20, 25% bonuses that they gave out in the long run they didn't factor in to the next wave of inflated unit stats to see where this would take the game. It made an already existing problem of not being able to catch up and ballooned it even more. Now what you see is the bonuses attached a whole lot lower now, and no one wants them, its not worth the effort.

I think not listening to their customers was what screwed them. Not any month in particular.

[good gawd noooo]

I am in a top 100 team two cycles ago I spent about 200 for month in gold and we placed 89th with me spending the most gold on a single wd ever and all 3 ids scored a total of 700k . this recent war we placed 88th and I spent nothing and the majority of my team spent far less then usual as well say at a team 75% less. and we placed one rank higher. final score two cycles ago was over 6m this cycle prolly at 5m or just under.. argue all you want as to what this means but long and short of it is many players either not trying or have retired/left the game. recruiting players for factions even at rank 100 is extrememly difficult as the top 25 teams are actually yanking from my team. there aren't enough "good" players to go around. I am here to watch it end as I have been part of my faction since its first day and now (have been basically for 3 years) its leader. honestly I prayed they would fix it bring back the excitement for along long time. instead they have instituted changes that make it worse. I now pray for a quick end so that I can stop checking in and running in events that bore me to tears and or are unbeatable without spending huge amounts of gold for crappy return(no I obviously wont do it). I long for the glory days of MW and I stay for my team which is a group of awesome guys and gals.. and even for forum which used to be a place of information and helpful hints but is not mostly people complaining(with good reason) and or people complaining about the people complaining(which they then become themselves). this game is beyond a rescue at this point if you don't want to face reality in regards to its coming demise then don't play buy gold climb the ranks and hopefully have fun.. and if you see what is around the next horizon go out in glory play to the end just don't waste another penny for what will end up being nothing when the game closes.. peace everyone(no not quiting just ending my post)

[Agent Orange]

Think you summed it up very well GGN. What was once fun is now tedious with goals that are unobtainable for the average player.

I think that is the biggest problem and what someone else already mentioned, that catching up is impossible so why bother trying since all you are going to have in the end is an empty bank account. And for what...

I still play, for free but log in less and less and don't really care at this point as I'm really starting to have fun with Boom Beach.

[Speed ump]

Hawd, do what I've done, start getting your members involved in another game so you guys can stick together. Maybe not everyone will go, but a good core of people will. There's one that stands out to me, but everyone may like something different.

[good gawd noooo]

Hawd, do what I've done, start getting your members involved in another game so you guys can stick together. Maybe not everyone will go, but a good core of people will. There's one that stands out to me, but everyone may like something different.

ive heard boom beach is good and I have heard coc is as well. tried coc not really my style of game.. I do gotta admit I like the credit card having no balance lol and not spending money on something that can so quickly fade.. however haven't found a game that makes me want to pick it up and play like MW used to do for me back in the day. All I know for sure is I will NEVER play another gree title.. and its weird I think that is first time tht I have posted were both speed and agent orange got and appreciate my message.. thanks guys lol goal reached

[East Coast Bias]

One word of caution about BB. If you spend real cash on the game, it gets real boring very quickly, given that the game has limited goals. I've been playing gold free from the start and that has kept the game challenging.