Question for mods

[I Love Money]

Will I get in trouble if I go back to using the avatar I had when I signed up?

In case you forgot, this was my avatar at the time:

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[Evan1000]

Sorry, that's naming and shaming people of a specific ethnic group. I'll have to lock this thread too

#LOCKED

[TheJess]

Yes, and you should now be permanently banned. Good luck to you.

[Dipstik]

Leave the moderating to the mods, right? He asked a question.

[Bad Beak]

Lolsies, that picture is an ethnic, religious, and racial caricature and it is patently offensive.

[John_Locke]

Lolsies, that picture is an ethnic, religious, and racial caricature and it is patently offensive.

If you're easily offended, I would like to be the first to recommend switching off your computer and drastically limiting your time on the internet. Or you can do what grownups do and not let it offend you.

[Bad Beak]

I do not expect to find crudely anti Semitic imagery in my Crime City forums, this is true.

I pointed out what was obvious, but I should not have presumed that others would be aware or care. I've said what I intended, and will say no more.

[I love tacos]

Yes, my Führer.

[Weasel]

Lots of people have beards. Lots of people have large honkers. Lots of people have two hands that can be held together in front of themselves. Lots of people have the ability to make a facial expression resembling whatever the expression in that image is meant to be.

None of those things are anything that should reasonably cause any rational, intelligent individual to become offended. Being offended by something is a choice you make, and it cannot be controlled pre-emptively by anyone with whom you may interact. Don't put the blame for your becoming offended on others, own it, figure out why you have allowed something to offended you, understand that others think differently than you, and grow as an individual.

[Bolt]

Will I get in trouble if I go back to using the avatar I had when I signed up?

In case you forgot, this was my avatar at the time:



No, the image is not fine. It falls under racial or religious slur under our code of conduct as that image was used to disparage jews during world war two. Coupled with your forum name "I love money" it is probably one of the oldest jewish stereotypes in existence. But you knew that right? I'm only bothering to explain this for those who might not understand the context since nobody has context for every questionable image or slur in the world.


If you're easily offended, I would like to be the first to recommend switching off your computer and drastically limiting your time on the internet. Or you can do what grownups do and not let it offend you.

These forums are not a "free speech" zone and are not a place to push the "boundaries" of what people find questionable or not. By all means use sites that are designed for that purpose but this forum is for discussing a video game called Crime City. Furthermore, we do not tolerate racial caricatures as per our code of conduct, that should be clear.

Let me be clear: we are not saying that this forum is rated "E" and that all you can talk about going forward is My Little Pony™ and lollipops; but from time to time we will make the call to remove something that not everyone finds questionable and that should be OK. What any given person is offended by varies greatly and this should come as no surprise to anybody.

[Dipstik]

I, for one, would be all in favor of banning all conversation not related to My Little Pony.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/261/1/b/happy_fluttershy_by_tgolyi-d5f3zfv.png

[!Radar]

Unless ponies are fighting transformers, I don't want to hear about them.

[I Love Money]

No, the image is not fine. It falls under racial or religious slur under our code of conduct as that image was used to disparage jews during world war two. Coupled with your forum name "I love money" it is probably one of the oldest jewish stereotypes in existence. But you knew that right? I'm only bothering to explain this for those who might not understand the context since nobody has context for every questionable image or slur in the world.



These forums are not a "free speech" zone and are not a place to push the "boundaries" of what people find questionable or not. By all means use sites that are designed for that purpose but this forum is for discussing a video game called Crime City. Furthermore, we do not tolerate racial caricatures as per our code of conduct, that should be clear.

Let me be clear: we are not saying that this forum is rated "E" and that all you can talk about going forward is My Little Pony™ and lollipops; but from time to time we will make the call to remove something that not everyone finds questionable and that should be OK. What any given person is offended by varies greatly and this should come as no surprise to anybody.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/0e92f804bf20ab15e493867115518c3b/tumblr_mn4hs786Zo1r4p8pno1_400.jpg

[Red BD]

Lots of people have beards. Lots of people have large honkers. Lots of people have two hands that can be held together in front of themselves. Lots of people have the ability to make a facial expression resembling whatever the expression in that image is meant to be.

None of those things are anything that should reasonably cause any rational, intelligent individual to become offended. Being offended by something is a choice you make, and it cannot be controlled pre-emptively by anyone with whom you may interact. Don't put the blame for your becoming offended on others, own it, figure out why you have allowed something to offended you, understand that others think differently than you, and grow as an individual.

Quite true, but what really targets it is the yarmulke IMHO. Frankly I thought the same as you (I think) - the caricature looks like a guy who, like you, "loves money." Yeah, he looks middle eastern, but so what? Every depiction needs to look like someone unless all caracitures (sp?) are to be banned. Then I noticed the yarmulke.
There has long been a stereotype of Jews to the affect they are money grubbing monsters (See, eg, Shakespeare).
I'm a huge fan of Free Speech, but Gree as a private company, certainly should have the right to suppress expression on the forums it controls which would reasonably make other customers go elsewhere for their gaming fun.

[Max Power]

It's easy to tell people not to be offended when you are not the one being characterized in a cartoonish manner. It's the same reason white people don't see racism in as many things as non-whites. While I would love to see everybody grow a thick skin, the reality is everyone reacts and sees things differently. It is not unreasonable to exercise caution in such cases.

[Nighteg]

It's easy to tell people not to be offended when you are not the one being characterized in a cartoonish manner. It's the same reason white people don't see racism in as many things as non-whites. While I would love to see everybody grow a thick skin, the reality is everyone reacts and sees things differently. It is not unreasonable to exercise caution in such cases.

Exactly. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck..

p.s. Why was my post deleted?
p.p.s. Why isn't the moron created this thread still not banned?

[Evan1000]

It's the same reason white people don't see racism in as many things as non-whites.

This kind of invalidated the whole point you were trying to make.

I understand both points of view. The one view being that the picture is extremely offensive to one particular group that underwent a very dark time in history where that picture was used, and the other being how people should learn to not get so easily offended.

The way I see it is.. jokes are fine between people if done with no intentions of actual racism towards one group. But on a public forum you can't make those kinds of jokes because you have no idea whose reading and I'm sure many would get offended if they saw that throughout the thousands of users actively reading this forum.

[beartrap]

Exactly. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck..

p.s. Why was my post deleted?
p.p.s. Why isn't the moron created this thread still not banned?

I saw your post and it was about possibly including porn if they were to allow the image. That was clearly not allowed.

Maybe if you didn't call other people morons, that might help.

[TheJess]

I saw your post and it was about possibly including porn if they were to allow the image. That was clearly not allowed.

Maybe if you didn't call other people morons, that might help.


No, the image is not fine. It falls under racial or religious slur under our code of conduct as that image was used to disparage jews during world war two. Coupled with your forum name "I love money" it is probably one of the oldest jewish stereotypes in existence. But you knew that right? I'm only bothering to explain this for those who might not understand the context since nobody has context for every questionable image or slur in the world.



These forums are not a "free speech" zone and are not a place to push the "boundaries" of what people find questionable or not. By all means use sites that are designed for that purpose but this forum is for discussing a video game called Crime City. Furthermore, we do not tolerate racial caricatures as per our code of conduct, that should be clear.

Let me be clear: we are not saying that this forum is rated "E" and that all you can talk about going forward is My Little Pony™ and lollipops; but from time to time we will make the call to remove something that not everyone finds questionable and that should be OK. What any given person is offended by varies greatly and this should come as no surprise to anybody.

And if what you say is true, which it is, then why do you continue to tolerate racist and homophobic postings on your forum?

[TheJess]

No, the image is not fine. It falls under racial or religious slur under our code of conduct as that image was used to disparage jews during world war two. Coupled with your forum name "I love money" it is probably one of the oldest jewish stereotypes in existence. But you knew that right? I'm only bothering to explain this for those who might not understand the context since nobody has context for every questionable image or slur in the world.



These forums are not a "free speech" zone and are not a place to push the "boundaries" of what people find questionable or not. By all means use sites that are designed for that purpose but this forum is for discussing a video game called Crime City. Furthermore, we do not tolerate racial caricatures as per our code of conduct, that should be clear.

Let me be clear: we are not saying that this forum is rated "E" and that all you can talk about going forward is My Little Pony™ and lollipops; but from time to time we will make the call to remove something that not everyone finds questionable and that should be OK. What any given person is offended by varies greatly and this should come as no surprise to anybody.

And if what you say is true, which it is, then why do you continue to tolerate racist and homophobic postings on your forum, by many who are repeat offenders?

[Vile Lynn]

Same stuff can be said about the game avatars...
A black guy in an orange jailsuit
Indian Nation, the tepees & loin cloths, and having the same moto as Isis
the prostitutes
Italian mafia stereotypes
etc...

In game, GREE is just as guilty of perpetuating unbecoming stereotypes that may insult sensitive customers.

just a game... just a game.

[Nighteg]

I saw your post and it was about possibly including porn if they were to allow the image. That was clearly not allowed.

There were no images on my post. No clue what you're talking about. There was a link explaining the origins of the photo OP posted in the first message.


Maybe if you didn't call other people morons, that might help.

So nazi propaganda is ok, but a moron is not? Interesting priorities.

[Bolt]

And if what you say is true, which it is, then why do you continue to tolerate racist and homophobic postings on your forum?

Our report a post feature is broken right now but if you see something racist or homophobic please send a Community Manager or a Moderator a private message and we will deal with it quickly.

[HavingFun]

And if what you say is true, which it is, then why do you continue to tolerate racist and homophobic postings on your forum, by many who are repeat offenders?

Why do you continue to spam multiple threads with whining about "repeat offenders" and yearning for valuable game information to be posted yet you never actually post anything useful about the actual game?

[Dipstik]

He's been trying to get me banned since he first joined. You get used to it.

[Weasel]

He's been trying to get me banned since he first joined. You get used to it.

Yup.

Extras.

[John_Locke]

Our report a post feature is broken right now but if you see something racist or homophobic please send a Community Manager or a Moderator a private message and we will deal with it quickly.

The game is leaking onto the forum! The bugs are spreading!

[Red BD]

Same stuff can be said about the game avatars...
A black guy in an orange jailsuit
Indian Nation, the tepees & loin cloths, and having the same moto as Isis
the prostitutes
Italian mafia stereotypes
etc...

In game, GREE is just as guilty of perpetuating unbecoming stereotypes that may insult sensitive customers.

just a game... just a game.

REALLY excellent post. One well worth thought. Thanks Miss Vile.

[willis3]

No, the image is not fine. It falls under racial or religious slur under our code of conduct as that image was used to disparage jews during world war two. Coupled with your forum name "I love money" it is probably one of the oldest jewish stereotypes in existence. But you knew that right? I'm only bothering to explain this for those who might not understand the context since nobody has context for every questionable image or slur in the world.



These forums are not a "free speech" zone and are not a place to push the "boundaries" of what people find questionable or not. By all means use sites that are designed for that purpose but this forum is for discussing a video game called Crime City. Furthermore, we do not tolerate racial caricatures as per our code of conduct, that should be clear.

Let me be clear: we are not saying that this forum is rated "E" and that all you can talk about going forward is My Little Pony™ and lollipops; but from time to time we will make the call to remove something that not everyone finds questionable and that should be OK. What any given person is offended by varies greatly and this should come as no surprise to anybody.


Now this, is great modding, thank you Bolt! ( not sarcastic)
Explained in a extremely pointed way for all to understand.

[Captain Torgue]

It's easy to tell people not to be offended when you are not the one being characterized in a cartoonish manner. It's the same reason white people don't see racism in as many things as non-whites. While I would love to see everybody grow a thick skin, the reality is everyone reacts and sees things differently. It is not unreasonable to exercise caution in such cases.

http://cazovejanegra.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/kfc_runner1.jpg

[HavingFun]

Stay away from my KFC

[TxTireMan]

Our report a post feature is broken right now but if you see something racist or homophobic please send a Community Manager or a Moderator a private message and we will deal with it quickly.

Ya uh, could you point me in the direction of one of those that can do something? Lmao

[Jcw9811]

Ya uh, could you point me in the direction of one of those that can do something? Lmao

Good luck with that he got fired a couple days ago

[Vile Lynn]

*points that-a-way*

[TxTireMan]

So no one in charge huh like a classroom of kids with no teacher....

[Dipstik]

You must have had a different school experience than I did. I would have said "without that annoying hall monitor who won't let you take a piss without showing him your permission slip."

[cooch]

You must have had a different school experience than I did. I would have said "without that annoying hall monitor who won't let you take a piss without showing him your permission slip."

Pass?! Pass?! I don't need no stinkin' pass!