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Gherik
05-02-2015, 08:18 AM
Level 65 boss has over 1T health. I guess the lil guys don't stand a chance to make any real progress again. At least we can kill SOMETHING this time.

Big John
05-02-2015, 08:48 AM
If it's the old style RB next goals don't sync.

You can buy folders for gold or valour.

good gawd noooo
05-02-2015, 05:46 PM
curious to see what they have done but NOT looking forward to rb .. which used to be one of the fav events.. is there an event that hasn't been totally gree'd up??

Pidgeot
05-02-2015, 06:16 PM
curious to see what they have done but NOT looking forward to rb .. which used to be one of the fav events.. is there an event that hasn't been totally gree'd up??

I wonder if GREE'd up will be added to the dictionary.

DieselPowered
05-02-2015, 07:16 PM
I dont know about the dictionary but its definitely in our vocabulary (thank you swear filter) :-)

LarryJackson
05-02-2015, 10:57 PM
Here's the raid boss Summary
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6EIZLr2sOnzmMyjNeSJ9FaCtwWpFdnAFIET7Owg (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6EIZLr2sOnzmMyjNeSJ9FaCtwWpFdnAFIET7Owg_r4/edit#gid=350271550)

Laurence1
05-03-2015, 12:02 AM
They must be smoking something for sure if they are basing this on raw stats then we are all greed. Our team might be able to get a level 5 done but that's about it lmao. We just have to wait and see

Hobbs
05-03-2015, 03:17 AM
Hope these raid boss health amounts are a Mistake!!!what do they base increases on?
After the farce of last Raid Boss you would think they might learn from it!
Increases of up to 7,000% in some cases on an already over inflated event! Another nail in the Coffin....
Cue the next Exodus...

Sheldor Sir
05-03-2015, 04:38 AM
Gree want all players who have been playing more than a year and dont/wont buy 3 or 4 vaults per cycle to quit

Cannot Connect To Server
05-03-2015, 05:05 AM
most stupid company ever.only company ever known to destroy their own games and force customers to other companies.

WBS
05-03-2015, 05:45 AM
Gree's biggest problem is greed. They obviously push for too much money and that shows through their game. Clash of clans, domination etc are way less pressure to spend. Gree has ruined themselves with their own style of business along with being unable to give us a quality game. But I believe the lack of quality comes from the need to pursue money over quality so they don't care. I am happy that at least RB is back to its original format.

Pidgeot
05-03-2015, 09:51 AM
Gree's biggest problem is greed. They obviously push for too much money and that shows through their game. Clash of clans, domination etc are way less pressure to spend. Gree has ruined themselves with their own style of business along with being unable to give us a quality game. But I believe the lack of quality comes from the need to pursue money over quality so they don't care. I am happy that at least RB is back to its original format.

This does show that GREE is at least listening to us. When Epic Boss was to hard, they reduced the boss health so most players could compete, they removed equipment, full assault was replaced and now we get back the raid boss we all know and love. I just wish there was some consistency here, like why remove the community side of things. It worked and players like getting more prizes.

tigerlion
05-03-2015, 10:06 AM
This does show that GREE is at least listening to us. When Epic Boss was to hard, they reduced the boss health so most players could compete, they removed equipment, full assault was replaced and now we get back the raid boss we all know and love. I just wish there was some consistency here, like why remove the community side of things. It worked and players like getting more prizes.

Did you check new bosses health? They didn't fix anything, just reverting to old format. A lev5 boss is 1.7T! Don't forget, we only use raw stats. Will be surprised any below T50 will complete even the easy goal, lol.

Hobbs
05-03-2015, 10:09 AM
This does show that GREE is at least listening to us. When Epic Boss was to hard, they reduced the boss health so most players could compete, they removed equipment, full assault was replaced and now we get back the raid boss we all know and love. I just wish there was some consistency here, like why remove the community side of things. It worked and players like getting more prizes.

I agree they may be listening more then they have lately,but if they needed to reduce health on last raid boss why the excessive increase this Cycle?
Also why is Raid Boss Raw Stats?
Why shouldn't the power bonuses that everyone has paid for in most cases be included?
A little increase to reflect growth is acceptable and keeps it competitive but to increase by over 7,000% on some levels is an insult to the people who support this game and have supported it through the MANY,MANY problems they have faced!
This is a problem and this is why so many players are choosing to leave game or go gold free.

DEWIN NUTTIN
05-03-2015, 10:40 AM
curious to see what they have done but NOT looking forward to rb .. which used to be one of the fav events.. is there an event that hasn't been totally gree'd up??

Near as I can tell, Gree has followed the lead of King Midas, who with his MIDAS TOUCH could turn EVERYTHING to GOLD.
Gree, with their GREEDAS touch, has turned everything to (YOU USE YOUR NOUN HERE)!

Pidgeot
05-03-2015, 10:41 AM
I agree they may be listening more then they have lately,but if they needed to reduce health on last raid boss why the excessive increase this Cycle?
Also why is Raid Boss Raw Stats?
Why shouldn't the power bonuses that everyone has paid for in most cases be included?
A little increase to reflect growth is acceptable and keeps it competitive but to increase by over 7,000% on some levels is an insult to the people who support this game and have supported it through the MANY,MANY problems they have faced!
This is a problem and this is why so many players are choosing to leave game or go gold free.

I agree with this but at least we got the old raid boss back. Top factions can at least help lower factions again and I also believe boss 65 is when normal ends so 1.7t is at least fair right?

Not justifying it but at least its weaker factions can do something now.

Bolt
05-03-2015, 12:02 PM
Out of curiosity, what would you think good health numbers are for each of the following levels:

65:
80:
100:
125:
150:

Sheldor Sir
05-03-2015, 12:32 PM
the level of participation should give you a clue!!!

Brown Out
05-03-2015, 02:13 PM
Just like last RB no problems here. My faction will finish this easily.

WBS
05-03-2015, 04:35 PM
Did you check new bosses health? They didn't fix anything, just reverting to old format. A lev5 boss is 1.7T! Don't forget, we only use raw stats. Will be surprised any below T50 will complete even the easy goal, lol.

I like old format but health is still out of whack.

DEWIN NUTTIN
05-03-2015, 05:18 PM
Out of curiosity, what would you think good health numbers are for each of the following levels:

65:
80:
100:
125:
150:


I suggest
.................................................. .....
65:.......... 5,000,000,000
80:.......... 10,000,000,000
100:.........50,000,000,000
125:........100,000,000,000
150:......1,000,000,000,000
.................................................. .....


AS long as you keep it the way it is, you'll continue to see the participation decline.

Cannot Connect To Server
05-03-2015, 05:35 PM
the best boss levels was prob abt 2-3 before tkr crud.

WBS
05-03-2015, 06:00 PM
I agree with Connect to Server, the increase before the experimental raid boss format was rolled out was fair. It was hard enough where we still would need gold to finish for. Idle factions and lower stat players still had a chance to compete. A level 5 with 1.5 trillion for new or starting out factions is way to high. I think 300-400 million would be a better start number.

Modern War Forum GF
05-03-2015, 06:19 PM
I suggest
.................................................. .....
65:.......... 5,000,000,000
80:.......... 10,000,000,000
100:.........50,000,000,000
125:........100,000,000,000
150:......1,000,000,000,000
.................................................. .....


AS long as you keep it the way it is, you'll continue to see the participation decline.

This is Really too low..

In my t25 a lot of members have FA above 200B and ALMOST all over 100B

In my t150 a lot of members are over 100B on FA and ALMOST all over 50B

Masters on a 7 day event should NOT be possible to be finished for FREE in my t150

65:............ 150,000,000,000
80:.......... 210,000,000,000
100:.........950,000,000,000
125:..... 4,000,000,000,000
150:..... 10,000,000,000,000

This should make masters hard and prestige attainable by a lot more lower ranked factions.

BIGGER ISSUE ATM I see is goal rewards are not balanced compared to loot units from bosses...

Like iT is now, This RB event Will turn out into another 7 day harvest event, however Nice this Seems to be statswise iT is NO fun!

Make goal rewards worth THE effort to do them! At least increase stats x25 (minimum), iTS BS that a goal rewards a unit 20x smaller then each member minimum gets from loot drop.

Modern War Forum GF
05-03-2015, 06:25 PM
I agree with Connect to Server, the increase before the experimental raid boss format was rolled out was fair. It was hard enough where we still would need gold to finish for. Idle factions and lower stat players still had a chance to compete. A level 5 with 1.5 trillion for new or starting out factions is way to high. I think 300-400 million would be a better start number.

Please keep in mind you can harvest those bosses...

A lvl5 drops minimum a 20m unit!! Which means NEXT Force attack Will increase with minimum 100m

So even if you would start a new faction with 20 new lvl1 accounts, you could do Some FLTQ goals to get Some units... And before you know iT you can kill a lvl5 boss (together)... And after a few of those, each new account could singlehit kill a lvl5.

1.5T for a lvl5 isnt that high at all if you have a more then a week old account!

Pidgeot
05-03-2015, 06:32 PM
I suggest
.................................................. .....
60........... 5,600,000,000
65:.......... 10,000,000,000
80:.......... 70,000,000,000
100:.........300,000,000,000
125:........450,000,000,000
150:......3,000,000,000,000
.................................................. .....

I think this is fair for most other players.

Helios Von Elisar
05-04-2015, 04:48 AM
If the current health were reduced by 25% on all levels it would be good for us. Then we might attempt masters. As it is right now, most of us will be farmers by tomorrow night.

groovy shags
05-04-2015, 08:33 AM
Try fixing the rest of the game before screwing events up and adding a bunch of other useless C R A P!