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Bolt
05-01-2015, 10:18 AM
With this update come two new features for Conquest of Kings.

Premium Matches. Premium matches are automatically enabled when a match is particularly closely matched: if Guilds are very close in rank and power. When that happens a premium match is triggered which lets you gain up to double the points for each attack on an enemy. There is no limit to how may times premium matches may occur. There are three levels within the Premium Match-up: Premium, Epic and Legendary. The closer the Guilds are, the better the matchup and the more intense the scoring will be.

Hotzones. Hotzones are periods of time in a war where a player can gain a defense reduction bonus against opponents. They are triggered by attacking the Castle. Players will be aware of the hotzones in order to take advantage of them; flames burst in an animation when they are activated. Once activated, they will last for the duration of that battle.


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Laura TCK
05-01-2015, 10:27 AM
We don't have command centres so you just pulled the same wording from MW can't even be bothered to explain anything before war

Vile Lynn
05-01-2015, 10:33 AM
Thanks for posting, Bolt.

Can you please explain the Hotzones a little more?
• What is a defense reduction bonus?
• If I hit the Castle* (not Command Center) enough, that's the only way to trigger?
• Will all guild mates see the bursting flames or just the member that triggered it?

If I don't update, will I still be able to battle?



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Bolt
05-01-2015, 10:58 AM
We don't have command centres so you just pulled the same wording from MW can't even be bothered to explain anything before war

Oops, corrected.


Thanks for posting, Bolt.

Can you please explain the Hotzones a little more?
• What is a defense reduction bonus?
• If I hit the Castle* (not Command Center) enough, that's the only way to trigger?
• Will all guild mates see the bursting flames or just the member that triggered it?

If I don't update, will I still be able to battle?



(Check out the gems on those two accts pictured! Yeowie!)


'Defense reduction bonus' simply means your opponent will have a defense penalty. Attacking the Castle is the only way to trigger it.
Only the individual player will see the hotzone.
Updating your game is very important, you could (and probably will) run into issues if you don't.


Players usually figure this stuff out really fast, good luck in the event!

Vile Lynn
05-01-2015, 11:08 AM
Updating your game is very important, you could (and probably will) run into issues if you don't.

Let me see... If I update, I might not be able to open the app at all.
If I don't update, you say I might run into issues.
This, I know.
Unfortunately, there will still be issues whether or not I update, for sure, always is.

Jnsolberg
05-01-2015, 11:18 AM
Was a 6 minute war part of your plan, or just another in a long series of screw ups?

bgood
05-01-2015, 11:19 AM
6 minute wars are beyond ridiculous...completely making what was my favorite time and making it unenjoyable

BeastMode...on
05-01-2015, 11:20 AM
someone clearly forgot the 0 after the 6 when programming time of battles

Vile Lynn
05-01-2015, 11:26 AM
Was a 6 minute war part of your plan, or just another in a long series of screw ups?


6 minute wars are beyond ridiculous...completely making what was my favorite time and making it unenjoyable


someone clearly forgot the 0 after the 6 when programming time of battles

LMAO! Oooh GREE, will you ever use QA/QC?

Jomama1
05-01-2015, 12:19 PM
Once again - this is why not to release new software on eve of war - is this intentional gree? Are you incapable of seeing the same repeated result over and over again?????

Ninja_122
05-01-2015, 01:39 PM
It seems to me they either don't listen or don't read what we post or simply don't care. One too many times releases prior to battle that don't work and battles that begin with issues as well. Gree need better testing cycle before releasing updates and also worked bugs so when we actually get the update we don't have surprises from the many mishaps with every battle cycle.

Vile Lynn
05-01-2015, 01:53 PM
We are the testing cycle.

Jomama1
05-01-2015, 04:08 PM
I can only imagine their developers sitting around and getting high - giggling at the mistakes. Wish we could have input on their next job interviews.

candii
05-01-2015, 04:36 PM
don't bother wasting hits for the defense reduction bonus, it's a sucker's trap. it doesn't stack and the maximum 9% is much less than the +/-20% randomizer algorithm

plavine
05-01-2015, 04:44 PM
On battle #6 Havent been blessed with a premium match up and all of our results have been within 2000 points. Between that , a the rotten cp points I keep getting , it is no wonder we are only 167

Saint-BEL
05-02-2015, 04:00 AM
I have only so far seen legendary match ups. Not any of the epic/premium match ups. Are they even working properly?

Jnsolberg
05-03-2015, 05:01 AM
We're almost at the end of day 2. This is what I've seen so far:

1). Early in the war (first 2-3 battles), we got legendary battles based on guild strength. After that, the legendary battles are based only on total CP.

2). We have not seen any Epic or Premium battles, only Legendary.

3). Hitting the Castle only triggers the defense reduction for the peep hitting it, not the entire guild. I just verified this with my multiple accounts

Valid or
05-03-2015, 10:08 PM
Major change to the way war is run, we had several issues,from quests through to the new war matching system and rewards given. but they were not fixed as of Sunday night 10pm pst.
I will take a guess and say you didn't Have the staff on duty to fix it. But why? There hasn't been a major change/update that didn't need bugs worked out.(I know people need their days off, but with changes like this it should be planed better, than to do it when most likely there is only a skeletal staff to deal with it(personal opinion only,I could be wrong))
If you did have the staff on hand, why wasn't it fixed, and why have all the reports done on Saturday/Sunday posted to the forums, been ignored?
I like the idea of this matching system, I like the new quests for the maps. I wish they had of worked. Could have added a whole new demention to war.
I missed the box quest, was one of the few box events I liked. But guess you thought we had enough potions.

Saint-BEL
05-04-2015, 12:53 AM
please bring back health regeneration as a reward!!!!!

Valid or
05-04-2015, 12:08 PM
This war was a huge disappointment with all the issues.
Sounded great,but nothing worked as it should have.and was a huge let down.
Only thing I can say that was good, the matching times were not bad.

plavine
05-04-2015, 05:13 PM
We ended up with 6 legendary ( none of the others . 3 were against teams within 1 spot of us . 1 was against a top 50 team ( we were around #160 at the time ) one was against a much lower team .

Valid or
05-04-2015, 05:56 PM
Monday afternoon, war is well over, and no one from gree has adressed the issues we had , here on the forums.

Jnsolberg
05-04-2015, 09:22 PM
Monday afternoon, war is well over, and no one from gree has adressed the issues we had , here on the forums.

What else is new?

Vile Lynn
05-05-2015, 07:26 AM
GREE got what they wanted... GREE used KA to live beta test this new stuff for the MW war in a couple of weeks. Amiwrong?

Valid or
05-05-2015, 03:51 PM
What else is new?
Guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I am very surprised.
They have addressed issues that have occurred with the new eb, among other new things, or things unrelated to all the new changes with war(COK), but nothing to all the issues and problems with war. It looks like they have been told not to comment on it from management.
Kinda reminds me of someone saying don't say a word, we don't want to open that can of worms(beans)...

Bolt
05-05-2015, 04:42 PM
We're almost at the end of day 2. This is what I've seen so far:

1). Early in the war (first 2-3 battles), we got legendary battles based on guild strength. After that, the legendary battles are based only on total CP.

2). We have not seen any Epic or Premium battles, only Legendary.

3). Hitting the Castle only triggers the defense reduction for the peep hitting it, not the entire guild. I just verified this with my multiple accounts

You are correct, only the player who triggers it will see it.


This war was a huge disappointment with all the issues.
Sounded great,but nothing worked as it should have.and was a huge let down.
Only thing I can say that was good, the matching times were not bad.

My apologies, I tried to get some answers yesterday but there was a lot going on around here and I was not able to learn much on time. The issues you mention have been passed along to the team and they are being worked on. Concerning Premium matches, if anyone can share more details as to what their experience was (and why you think they didn't work as they should) it will help me compile that info for the developers. Thanks.

Valid or
05-05-2015, 05:23 PM
You are correct, only the player who triggers it will see it.



My apologies, I tried to get some answers yesterday but there was a lot going on around here and I was not able to learn much on time. The issues you mention have been passed along to the team and they are being worked on. Concerning Premium matches, if anyone can share more details as to what their experience was (and why you think they didn't work as they should) it will help me compile that info for the developers. Thanks.
Easy to explain the premium and epic, they never showed for anyone, did not function at all, we only saw legendary now and then when the conditions were met to trigger it, but the other two types never showed once.
And
Will they be able to fix the strategy quests? Only worked as it should the first time it was deployed, last two wars only one of the 5 quests were in our log. And it seemed random between players, some just I, others just had IV, talk to someone else and they only had V. But we all got the pop ups for all quests even if they wasn't In our log.

Gendur
05-06-2015, 01:56 AM
This new war format with the 220% cp boost is easy to exploit in the top 10. Please reduce this bonus to something less unbalancing otherwise the team who has the most legendary matches will always win. Individual strength of guilds doesn't matter anymore, just whoever is best at match fixing.

E-I
05-06-2015, 05:52 AM
220% bonus meant that luck played too much of a factor in the final placement of some guilds. Case in point... you could watch the #1 and #2 teams trade places (and huge leads) all weekend. FiB got a legendary match for the final battle, and RK did not. That made the difference.

Also, there were a lot of back-channel deals made by top teams to schedule legendary matches. Normally, these teams work to avoid such matches. I'm sure Gree loved the extra income from such battles, but it sort of ruins the competition aspect of war.

plavine
05-06-2015, 06:35 AM
You are correct, only the player who triggers it will see it.



My apologies, I tried to get some answers yesterday but there was a lot going on around here and I was not able to learn much on time. The issues you mention have been passed along to the team and they are being worked on. Concerning Premium matches, if anyone can share more details as to what their experience was (and why you think they didn't work as they should) it will help me compile that info for the developers. Thanks.

The barbarians 962626048 got 5-6 legendary matchups in 21 battles : we got no premium or epic matchups : 3 of our matchups were against teams with 1 place of us in the standings at the time of battle . One was against a team 100 places higher and much stronger than us . One was against a team that finished 25 places lower than us. One was against a team that was near us in the standings at the time but ended up finishing 75 places higher than us

plavine
05-06-2015, 06:41 AM
So , I am assuming that this new battle scheme was designed to help teams evenly matched score more points . However - aren't All battles supposed to be matched that way ??? We have been saying for 2 years now that matching teams on pure Attack strength isn't always fair since the matchups have nothing to with what level the players are at. However , scoring points has EVERYTHING to do with what level you and your opponent are . If that wasn't the case we 200+ players would just Attack level 100's all the time .

SilentAssassin
05-06-2015, 11:59 AM
Hope they fix this before they bring it over to their other games!

Valid or
05-06-2015, 12:21 PM
Honestly in my opinion I can say anything about the cp scores or who got legendary whenever it showed for them or even how fair it was. as with the other two Types of battle(premium/epic) failing to trigger for any guild, missing quests and rewards failing to work correctly. It's impossible to judge how war would have been/gone if everything worked as it should.

Valid or
05-11-2015, 09:15 AM
A full week since end of war and no news on all the issues from war.
Will everything be fixed and working from the new system added to matching, to the quests that where missing and rewards that failed to work, for next war?

Jomama1
05-12-2015, 03:14 AM
I just don't like the Casino aspect of these new matches. Really bad. Once again short term benefits at long term cost to user population.

Agenthollis
05-21-2015, 11:40 AM
any information on the timing of the legendaries? another war weekend and I wonder if there will be any changes, do you have any idea how it feels to have a position in the war and lose it on the last battle because you did not happen to draw a legendary match and others did - helpless and angry. can you go back to old, more fair system. just needing to express some
frustration.

Vile Lynn
05-21-2015, 12:57 PM
Can we have a couple of hours with 6-min wars in the beginning, again?

That was AWESOME! ;)

Spock_
05-22-2015, 12:54 AM
I do agree with Vile Lynn
This wars format is really great :D

Vile Lynn
05-22-2015, 01:07 PM
I've hit the castle 12x and never triggered a Hotzone.

What's going on?

Valid or
05-22-2015, 05:00 PM
Is any of it even workingat all?
Have not any match ups other than normal, and the bonus from the castle hit is not working

Ryosaeba
05-22-2015, 11:33 PM
The "Legendary, Epic" match-ups aren't really working as well. We've matched with several teams last time that trigger a Legendary match but it did not trigger it this time. We've only seen one match (an Epic match) that gave only a 1.5x CP boost.

Is this something new?

Hello? Gree? Anyone home?

plavine
05-25-2015, 06:15 AM
The "Legendary, Epic" match-ups aren't really working as well. We've matched with several teams last time that trigger a Legendary match but it did not trigger it this time. We've only seen one match (an Epic match) that gave only a 1.5x CP boost.

Is this something new?

Hello? Gree? Anyone home?

1) weekend -no one home ; today Memorial Day ; no one home
2) I started a thread on this , but we've gotten 1 premium and one legendary .

Msikes
05-25-2015, 06:21 AM
This is a load of crap, it is not happening the way it has been explained. Thanks GREE for yet messing up another feature of this game please hire developers that know what they are doing because clearly yours don't. I will be sending a request along with my guild requesting a full refund for all the gems and potions I used during this event trying to achieve the impossible.

Ratma2001
05-29-2015, 01:20 PM
I just noticed these pictures and looked carefully at them.....hmm I thought Mod's and Dev's didn't or wernt allowed to play this ? I hope you guys PAID Real Money for all those GEMS ??? and if I was at those levels I would be looking to raid you of all that coin aswell !!!
If you didn't pay for all those Gems..how did you obtain them ? I hope not dishonestly ?

candii
05-29-2015, 02:08 PM
I just noticed these pictures and looked carefully at them.....hmm I thought Mod's and Dev's didn't or wernt allowed to play this ? I hope you guys PAID Real Money for all those GEMS ??? and if I was at those levels I would be looking to raid you of all that coin aswell !!!
If you didn't pay for all those Gems..how did you obtain them ? I hope not dishonestly ?
"sorry for the confusion."
it was "not intended" to be there.
"it's a display error."
😐

Vile Lynn
06-14-2015, 07:42 AM
What happened with this?

:confused:

Vile Lynn
06-18-2015, 12:37 PM
*crickets chirping*