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Demolisher VFF Rebels
04-14-2015, 04:08 PM
All I can say is wow these bosses are a lot harder than I expected there are many low lvls on 2hits before boss 15 . If anyone has exact healthy along the way it would be great. And could tell me how much a free hit and paid hit do in damage ? Thanks

Pablo Benassi
04-14-2015, 04:25 PM
Totally agree. They take off the tier and raise up the strength. I think the only ones that will have this boss easy will be the ones that farmed last EB like hell.

Keiff
04-14-2015, 04:37 PM
Anyway to adjust displayed attack damage done against boss for droid? I can not see the whole damage number. Also it goes by so fast it is hard to read the whole number much less get a screen shot of it.

MsTink0514
04-14-2015, 05:10 PM
Not sure if this is exact, but this has been posted in some chatrooms:

Sergeant wolfe eb health

2- 10.5m
3 - 14m
4 - 17.5m
5- 21m
6- 26m
7- 31.5mil
8 - 37mil
9 - 46mil
10- 56mil
11- 61m
12- 70m
13- 78m
14- 87.5m
15- 105m
16- 122.5m
17- 140m
18- 157.5m
19- 175m
20 - 192.5mil
22-227mil
46- 857.5m
48 - 927m
49- 962m
50 - 997m
51 - 1032m
52 - 1067m
54 - 1137m
55 - 1172m
56 - 1216m
57 - 1260m
58 -1304m
59 - 1347m
60 - 1391m
61 - 1435m
62 - 1479m
63 - 1522m
64 - 1575m
65 - 1627m (possibly)
66 - 1680m
67 - 1732m
68 - 1785m
69 - 1846m
70 - 1908m
71 - 1969m
72 - 2030m
73 - 2091m
74 - 2147m
75 - 2147m also

rotmang
04-14-2015, 05:20 PM
Lvl 29 2 free hits 1st hit,,353,236,796 2nd hit,,40,622,468. And last eb i farmt 800+ lvl 100s with 1 free hit. I dont have a problem with tiers taken awey i only dont hope that it is going to be so hard that smaller syns cant finish the daily goals.

aarondavidsdad
04-14-2015, 05:20 PM
Another screw up. It's what I have come to expect. There is such a large disparity in attack between the highest of the high and the lowest of the low that a tiered system of boss health worked. Maybe there should have been more tiers or a refinement of boss health but why screw up a good event? Mr. Developer do you really want to alienate a wide swath of your loyal players?

Dipstik
04-14-2015, 05:25 PM
Get stronger.

Edit: remember, developers... This is the way it should have been from the start. People getting stronger to complete goals. You're going to have a lot of complaining from people who have come to expect to finish this event for free by one-hitting bosses at low levels. They're not happy that their strategy was nerfed. This has to be done, though.

aarondavidsdad
04-14-2015, 05:28 PM
Get stronger.

Get a clue

sean.keller
04-14-2015, 05:36 PM
Get stronger.

Edit: remember, developers... This is the way it should have been from the start. People getting stronger to complete goals. You're going to have a lot of complaining from people who have come to expect to finish this event for free by one-hitting bosses at low levels. They're not happy that their strategy was nerfed. This has to be done, though.

Get a better account or stop playing

travisman1
04-14-2015, 05:37 PM
Get a clue

its funny cause dipstik always knows best

Smallestelf
04-14-2015, 05:47 PM
Is attack strength for EB based on raw strength or Modded?

Captain Torgue
04-14-2015, 05:58 PM
Get stronger.

Edit: remember, developers... This is the way it should have been from the start. People getting stronger to complete goals. You're going to have a lot of complaining from people who have come to expect to finish this event for free by one-hitting bosses at low levels. They're not happy that their strategy was nerfed. This has to be done, though.

I'm in total agreement. So sick of these minis taking advantage of a flawed system.

Joe bananas
04-14-2015, 06:32 PM
Is attack strength for EB based on raw strength or Modded?

EB and RB uses your raw attack only.

And pains me to say.... I agree with dippy.

Dipstik
04-14-2015, 06:42 PM
EB and RB uses your raw attack only.

And pains me to say.... I agree with dippy.

It always hurts the first time, but it'll feel better once you get used to it!

HavingFun
04-14-2015, 06:50 PM
And last eb i farmt 800+ lvl 100s with 1 free hit.

Thank you Gree for eliminating tiers. Just read the above post and let it sink in.

Green Drake
04-14-2015, 07:32 PM
Thank you Gree for eliminating tiers. Just read the above post and let it sink in.
Except those minis have such a high raw Attack there is a good chance they will still excel in this format.

Dipstik
04-14-2015, 07:36 PM
Yeah but over time that will sort itself out.

cynicalmofo
04-15-2015, 12:50 AM
last eb i farmt 800+ lvl 100s with 1 free hit.

Agree with Dipstik and HavingFun here - Farming 100's with 1 free hit was retarded.

I, like many others took advantage of it. Not because I wanted a "beast mini" though, I simply wanted to replace our level 255 DL with an account of equal stats under level 100.

My account was a reset level 1 account (Reset due to the original name) with 22m IPH (Taken over a year) and a heap of syndicate bonuses and modifiers. It's now level 88 with 2.8b attack and 1.9b defense.

I personally thought that it was a pretty solid account - Sadly, my rivals list is full of similar accounts with 0 IPH which then makes me question why I've bothered playing my main account for 2+ years when the accounts are now essentially rendered worthless.

I'm still very much of the opinion that the bosses should be matched to your attack stats meaning everyone has the same challenge and the same conditions in which to complete an event but this current method solves the issue in the short term.

sister morphine
04-15-2015, 01:09 AM
I'm in total agreement. So sick of these minis taking advantage of a flawed system.
I'm happy low levels won't be able to sail through without drawing breath, but the health this time seems to have been set somewhere between what 201-250s and >250s had to put up with last time.

Only those super strong minis from last time will have a relatively easy time on this one. So, the supposed correction is merely going to cement the bad effects of previous poor decision making. A schlimbesserung, as the Germans would say. ;)

Pablo Benassi
04-15-2015, 02:51 AM
Can someone post the requirements for lvl 100 boss. Thanks

navanodo
04-15-2015, 03:01 AM
Boss 100 health is 8,215b

Pablo Benassi
04-15-2015, 03:16 AM
Thanks. Can a jumper jump into my account and kill the boss for me? Lol

Shisoru
04-15-2015, 03:31 AM
I won't argue that the level tier system was unfair. However, this new system is no better for the majority of players. I have detailed some of the major reasons in this thread:

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?114704-Epic-Boss-is-WAY-too-hard-We-need-a-system-for-everyone-not-just-quot-vets-quot&p=1497620#post1497620

We need to have a system that meets in the middle. Something that allows the weak and strong, old and new a fighting chance at event completion. I don't mind spending gold to secure an Epic Boss event completion, but when I can't down a level 40 in 4 hits, there is no reason for me to even attempt to finish. The amount of gold needed for me and players like me would be staggering.

sister morphine
04-15-2015, 03:41 AM
I won't argue that the level tier system was unfair. However, this new system is no better for the majority of players. I have detailed some of the major reasons in this thread:

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?114704-Epic-Boss-is-WAY-too-hard-We-need-a-system-for-everyone-not-just-quot-vets-quot&p=1497620#post1497620

We need to have a system that meets in the middle. Something that allows the weak and strong, old and new a fighting chance at event completion. I don't mind spending gold to secure an Epic Boss event completion, but when I can't down a level 40 in 4 hits, there is no reason for me to even attempt to finish. The amount of gold needed for me and players like me would be staggering.
As I said in your thread, it was a huge mistake to put out game changing prizes without making them equally available to all so active players are the winners.

A player in my syndicate also plays MW, but on a casual basis when nothing is happening in CC. During the last epic boss there he said in our chat how it took him four hits to kill the Lvl 28 boss, but by the time he'd reached Lvl 100 he was one hitting them. That's how much difference the prizes were making. The crucial point is that this was true whether a player was level 30 or 300. Being active was all that mattered.

Dare I suggest though that as a level 100 player you should have taken more advantage of the last boss. If you'd done that you might be in a rather better position for this one.

Pablo Benassi
04-15-2015, 04:49 AM
Any chance to get a picture of the set of prizes of the lvl 100 boss has?

!Radar
04-15-2015, 05:36 AM
They could of left the tiers they way they were, well cut the high levels some slack, all they had to do was cap the prizes. Have it so you can only keep 10 of each item, anything above that gets tossed, turned into cash, or you could pay gold to keep it. Although, this is more like the way the game should be. People that can't beat the boss have a goal, hopefully gree doesn't keep upping the health, that's what turns people away.

Chowda
04-15-2015, 05:42 AM
I love this new EB format. Levels the playing field for all. If I could suggest one thing for the mods to send to developers, is do the same thing you do with RB. Give us an easy, normal, and elite format for the EB. Let the player decide route to go. Not sure how that will factor into individual goals.

Max Power
04-15-2015, 07:35 AM
I won't argue that the level tier system was unfair. However, this new system is no better for the majority of players. I have detailed some of the major reasons in this thread:

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?114704-Epic-Boss-is-WAY-too-hard-We-need-a-system-for-everyone-not-just-quot-vets-quot&p=1497620#post1497620

We need to have a system that meets in the middle. Something that allows the weak and strong, old and new a fighting chance at event completion. I don't mind spending gold to secure an Epic Boss event completion, but when I can't down a level 40 in 4 hits, there is no reason for me to even attempt to finish. The amount of gold needed for me and players like me would be staggering.

LOL.....for the record, I started this game in August 2011, the month it went live, and I have never gotten past level 40 in 4 hits. Ever. Most of us from back then were level 200 before bosses came out. So, enjoy the fact you had what you did, because many of us have never even sniffed the halfway point in Boss events.

The_Don
04-15-2015, 10:34 AM
All I can say is wow these bosses are a lot harder than I expected there are many low lvls on 2hits before boss 15 . If anyone has exact healthy along the way it would be great. And could tell me how much a free hit and paid hit do in damage ? Thanks

I remember hitting level 5 and needing two hits as a 250 player.