100 Billion is the New 100 Thkusand !

[Mcdoc]

I remember how happy I was the day about 6 months into playing the game that I broke 100,000 Attack stats. The very top playes in the game were already on their way to 200,000 - but it was rarely facing anyone above 80k and felt like I was in the top 10% of monster accounts :-)

i just broke 100 Billion - 3 years later . . .

Well - gone from 24b billion to 100 billion in the last 72 hours between 100 easy raid boss kills and an easy Masters Ltq - doesn't feel quite so much to celebrate. Especially when I hear of people who have killed over 3,000 Bosses - all with a single free hit

reports of accounts with 1 trillion stats

reports of an account with 3 trillion stars

rumors of an account with 5 trillion stats

why do I feel like I'm playing the violin for people enjoying a free buffet and an open bar on the deck of the Titanic ?


Nom nom nom nom - Oh - look at the pretty Ice Berg :-)

[DieselPowered]

I see you found the lettuce... dont play so close to the salad bar! Lol

[DEWIN NUTTIN]

Relax, its all good, pal, if you're a Lilliputian. LOL

[gwill]

100,000 6 months ago? LOL! Come on i know you had way more then that...

[Johnson_Jr]

100,000 6 months ago? LOL! Come on i know you had way more then that...

Not 6months ago. 6 months after starting

[Tinker]

(CUT)

reports of accounts with 1 trillion stats

reports of an account with 3 trillion stars

rumors of an account with 5 trillion stats

why do I feel like I'm playing the violin for people enjoying a free buffet and an open bar on the deck of the Titanic ?


Nom nom nom nom - Oh - look at the pretty Ice Berg :-)

OMG that is so funny.
Thanks
nom nom nom tapitytaptaptap

[bashir]

[QUOTE=Mcdoc;1489150]I remember how happy I was the day about 6 months into playing the game that I broke 100,000 Attack stats. The very top playes in the game were already on their way to 200,000 - but it was rarely facing anyone above 80k and felt like I was in the top 10% of monster accounts :-)

Exactly the filling gree want to give players that a week ago had a lot of work to do to get in the bill club were all the action is and when there every smart player we'd know every 1% in boost separates him from every one else and get him closer to the top players in that club

if till now all gree income was from the top 100 faction clearly a lot more players well join that circle :cool:

[DIABLOPEZ]

3 trillion already there befor epic boss, even maybe 5

[MENTALLY INCOMPETENT]

Whatever THE GREE did, the THE GREE did right!!!
DEW it again, THE GREE!

[& The Horse U Rode In On]

Stat inflation measured with a stopwatch instead of a calendar

[Pidgeot]

at the very lease this cycle is will be interesting.

[Thief]

reports of accounts with 1 trillion stats

reports of an account with 3 trillion stars

rumors of an account with 5 trillion stats



I can Confirm all 3.....I imagine we will see 20 Trillion in those top 2 factions.

[Ajk]

I can Confirm all 3.....I imagine we will see 20 Trillion in those top 2 factions.

But are they legit stats? Now I'm not calling out cheaters or anything, I mean with the addition of the new boost buildings along with the boosts bought and paid for by these people (which I am sure are huge). What is the new threshold between the winning and losing? What is acceptable now? Did they just pull the wool over everyones eyes? Can someone with 500000000000 beat someone with 1000000000000? Lol?

[Thief]

But are they legit stats? Now I'm not calling out cheaters or anything, I mean with the addition of the new boost buildings along with the boosts bought and paid for by these people (which I am sure are huge). What is the new threshold between the winning and losing? What is acceptable now? Did they just pull the wool over everyones eyes? Can someone with 500000000000 beat someone with 1000000000000? Lol?

If they have been a long time top 2 player then sure....Figure average they have +5000+% to their stats and some even higher....but yes someone with half the attack as the opponents defense can still win it appears.

[andy2]

But are they legit stats? Now I'm not calling out cheaters or anything, I mean with the addition of the new boost buildings along with the boosts bought and paid for by these people (which I am sure are huge). What is the new threshold between the winning and losing? What is acceptable now? Did they just pull the wool over everyones eyes? Can someone with 500000000000 beat someone with 1000000000000? Lol?

Yes they are legit stats. The appolo units and boost buildings alone were enough to get many accounts who had built up a lot of boost units there. Throw in 30m units where you can add a new one every 2 minutes via epic boss and yes there are 10T+ accounts already.

As for the threshold, it actually seems somewhat reasonable right now. I am well into the 1T in stats and finding people of 1T or similar strength is quite common. In general if their defense is above my attack (raiding or attacking) I lose, and if their defense is lower I win. I can not beat people with much higher def in raids.

What is not reasonable is that:
1) each raid or attack my attack stat and my opponents defense stat fluctuate by hundreds of billions each attack ~ I have read a possible explanation for this in another post, but would like it confirmed by gree.
2) that alliance defense does not work and that if my stats show 1.3T someone attacking me may only see 850B and that is the baseline for which my stats fluctuate. It may be 700-900B but nowhere near 1.3T. The only fair thing is that it doesnt work for anyone.

[Ajk]

If they have been a long time top 2 player then sure....Figure average they have +5000+% to their stats and some even higher....but yes someone with half the attack as the opponents defense can still win it appears.

Do you, rather, anyone take solace in this?

Kind of reminds me of that H3 commercial a few years ago. "Why don't you make one smaller?"

[Mcdoc]

What is not reasonable is that:
1) each raid or attack my attack stat and my opponents defense stat fluctuate by hundreds of billions each attack ~ I have read a possible explanation for this in another post, but would like it confirmed by gree.
2) that alliance defense does not work and that if my stats show 1.3T someone attacking me may only see 850B and that is the baseline for which my stats fluctuate. It may be 700-900B but nowhere near 1.3T. The only fair thing is that it doesnt work for anyone.

Some ideas on the "fluctuation"

1) the random dice roll factor explained in my post last week about skill points. Check it out and you will see how your points can fluctuate UP or DOWN from your raw Alliance Attack based on Skill Points x Fixed Numeral x Randmon Dice Roll which could result in a negative number.

2). There are bonuses which allow you to bring in more allies and bonuses which deduct the number of allies on your opponent. That's why if you check the battle result screen - you might see 525 allies for you and 465 for your opponent - but the next rival will have a different number of allies - which translates to number of units brought into battle - based on the bonuses they have accumulated hat affect Allie count.

Lots and lots of variables in play :-)

[Mcdoc]

Btw - since I started this post less than 8 hours ago - I have gained another 50 billion in stats - and that's with only an additional 35 bosses

plus bonuses . . .

[andy2]

Some ideas on the "fluctuation"

1) the random dice roll factor explained in my post last week about skill points. Check it out and you will see how your points can fluctuate UP or DOWN from your raw Alliance Attack based on Skill Points x Fixed Numeral x Randmon Dice Roll which could result in a negative number.

2). There are bonuses which allow you to bring in more allies and bonuses which deduct the number of allies on your opponent. That's why if you check the battle result screen - you might see 525 allies for you and 465 for your opponent - but the next rival will have a different number of allies - which translates to number of units brought into battle - based on the bonuses they have accumulated hat affect Allie count.

Lots and lots of variables in play :-)

I mentioned your post in my quote for #1, that could help explain it, but 1) It wasn't like this previously. A year ago if I had 100,523 attack and hit someone 12 times every single time it would display 100,523. And 2) I have not heard gree say a word on it.

For #2 The ally bonuses for sure have no affect. Alliance def is broken. There is no possible way that every single person I attack loses almost 1/2 of their displayed defense stat - some players in the 4T+ range lose closer to 75%, because of my -8 alliance size reduction bonus. Many people level the Gauss cannon up to see a displayed increase in stats yet when someone attacks them, their defense has not moved at all.. its been proven 100 different ways and gree has not done anything to acknowledge or fix it.

[crazeejay]

I can Confirm all 3.....I imagine we will see 20 Trillion in those top 2 factions.

Wow those guys must have an awesome social life. lmfao

[Mcdoc]

I mentioned your post in my quote for #1, that could help explain it, but 1) It wasn't like this previously. A year ago if I had 100,523 attack and hit someone 12 times every single time it would display 100,523. And 2) I have not heard gree say a word on it.


Maybe you missed the part of the thread where I explained that when the skill point effects are turned off - you only see the raw alliance Attack score on every single battle report with no fluctuation

otherwise - when the skill points are "on" and active - the final battle score with all of the formula variables is displayed - which fluctuates every single battle AND sometimes even goes below your raw alliance attack when the "dice roll" comes out with a negative result.

Lastly - Gree is NEVER going to tell you what's going on :-)

[Mcdoc]

Btw - not sure how many bosses later - but have now crossed 208 billion stats - a 100 billion gain in 12 hours

[pelle plutt]

sup nico had 11trillon defence yesterday =)

[NO_BS]

Came across a 1.8 T-Rex but I couldn't load a screenshot of it here.

[Campy McCamperpants]

Before this event SUP NICO had 3T defense. I have a screen shot of it in groupme

[truthteller]

Wow those guys must have an awesome social life. lmfao

they do have a nice social life, they also have the cash to "hire" a BOTtler to do the tapping for them while socializing :rolleyes:

[Mcdoc]

Crossed over 300 Billion now - all my own Finger tapping :)

But 300 Billion up against 3 TRillion - not sure how this game can continue beyond next Friday - LoL

[JaiZo]

Surprisingly there are some who haven't realized this yet: None of that matters, and never has. Every time you, or any player, has received a bonus, jump in stats, or high stat unit(s), so did everyone else; this especially includes the players who spend real money and the players who are addicted to the game. This obviously applies to the latest event which boosted each player's statistics significantly. If I'm not being clear enough, even if your stats have increased by 10,20,50, no, 100 billion, you're that much (or more) further away from those who were already beyond you statistically, so raising your stats ultimately amounts to nothing for everyone unless you're a top faction and/or huge spender.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game, raising stats and playing casually with challenging goals, but there's no reason to complain about things like this anymore since ultimately, it's a time-killer type game.
Though, I shouldn't have to even post this since it should be obvious if not said previously by someone else.