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Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 11:46 AM
The event itself is great and I'm glad to see it but these type of events should exclude buildings. This was the same problem with the wind farms. People would not reset their Wind Farms which resulted in players not completing the goal. As a player, why would I reset my Command Center? Why would others do it? The collect all button would break it because most Command Centers are synced with other 24 hour buildings, like mine are.

I would just say this is a oversight but given the news with EB overlayed with WD, I would say this is a stupid move. I'm going to do the courteous and leave mine up but thats still only one attack for that day. The building should have been a smaller building with many "Up" times during the days with no more then the hour payout buildings.

I mean come on, did you guys take any game theory classes?

MrFister
03-10-2015, 11:53 AM
good luck with 2/3

goblue21
03-10-2015, 11:58 AM
good luck with 2/3

it was easy

Monteverdi
03-10-2015, 12:04 PM
it was easy

It is impossible and particularly for level 300+ players that have now a very limited list of opponents, great work Gree !

Bongo
03-10-2015, 12:06 PM
Gree demonstrate more of their stupidity. ..

goblue21
03-10-2015, 12:16 PM
you all get pissed when they bring something out and get pissed when they don't. Pick a side and stick with it. look harder to find people.

Loser
03-10-2015, 12:25 PM
it was easy


I agree, finished the event 30 minutes ago. I'm sure it will be difficult for level 300+ players though.

kmg108
03-10-2015, 12:27 PM
this event was almost too easy. Took one hour from start to finish.

Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 12:28 PM
you all get pissed when they bring something out and get pissed when they don't. Pick a side and stick with it. look harder to find people.

You dont seem to understand well placed complaints. Its the problem with the world. They are asking each players to raid, in a 24 hour clock day, a building thats raidable every 24 hours. That means the building is "lit" once a day. Put that with all the players looking for them, we can realistically have all command centers down in 1 or 2 hours. This event also depends on people not collecting their 24 hour buildings, which the commend center is synced with or they would repair it once hit.

The problem here is balance, since there is no amount of gold you can spend to finish that goal. You are completely at the mercy of the player base and thats a bad way to run an event. This would be less of a problem if the building had a 1 hour or less payout OR the goal did not require a specific building to raid.

I feel so sorry to European and Asian players.

goblue21
03-10-2015, 12:30 PM
You dont seem to understand well placed complaints. Its the problem with the world. They are asking each players to raid, in a 24 hour clock day, a building thats raidable every 24 hours. That means the building is "lit" once a day. Put that with all the players looking for them, we can realistically have all command centers down in 1 or 2 hours. This event also depends on people not collecting their 24 hour buildings, which the commend center is synced with or they would repair it once hit.

The problem here is balance, since there is no amount of gold you can spend to finish that goal. You are completely at the mercy of the player base and thats a bad way to run an event. This would be less of a problem if the building had a 1 hour or less payout OR the goal did not require a specific building to raid.

then why are you replying back to this thread when you should be hunting for the building you need....I finished it in 25 mins....I guess I can relax now.

Vegaman
03-10-2015, 12:34 PM
Anyone saying they finished this is just a WindUp merchant. I have now looked at 350 rivals bases. Not 1 CC lit up... Not bothering anymore. Better things to do with my time. Bye

Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 12:37 PM
then why are you replying back to this thread when you should be hunting for the building you need....I finished it in 25 mins....I guess I can relax now.

I did finish but I'm not a selfish player. I see the problem this will cause and speaking on it. The problem is you're not also saying the same thing. A lot of player can't finish. Most cant finish because of timezone. Most players are killing off the entire building for the goal when they only need 1 hit. This event is completely player driven and thats a problem.

bergmystr
03-10-2015, 12:37 PM
There is a pretty simple fix to this. If the events are going to run like this, have the target buildings auto reset to raidable or "lit" every 2-4 hours. Though giving Gree's track record lately I guess it's not that simple. It would have to involve multiple clocks (Last RAID time, last player collection, etc....)

Nevermind, not that simple. Rambling, fading into silence..........

goblue21
03-10-2015, 12:41 PM
if gree wanted everyone to have this then they would put a gold price to it. I play they game to play the game. I dont rely on money to buy gold to get ahead...its a game bro...play it

Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 12:43 PM
if gree wanted everyone to have this then they would put a gold price to it. I play they game to play the game. I dont rely on money to buy gold to get ahead...its a game bro...play it

And the game should be balanced for all. The second goal is not balanced since its giving 24 hours to raid 9 24 hour payout buildings between thousands of players, most of which cant finish because of timezone.

goblue21
03-10-2015, 12:46 PM
do you think there is only one player over seas playing this game? come on now.

kmg108
03-10-2015, 12:47 PM
And the game should be balanced for all. The second goal is not balanced since its giving 24 hours to raid 9 24 hour payout buildings between thousands of players, most of which cant finish because of timezone.

As much as I don't like to agree with you, I do think a better building choice could have been used. The 24 building in a 24 hour event does make it tough. Having said that, I did visit many bases to find the targets.

Perhaps a 12 hour building would have been more appropriate, given the number of people that play this game.

Ajk
03-10-2015, 01:00 PM
I agree with the op. I spent about ten minutes looking for command centers and never found one. Nice prize but I have better things to do with my time. It was really a bad choice to choose a 24 hr building for a 24 hour event. But it's really no skin off my back my interest in this game has gotten extremely low anymore with all of the crappy programming, "glitches", and just all around really bad customer service. It was a nice attempt to bring back an original event but turned out to be a major fail once again.

Copenhagen
03-10-2015, 01:02 PM
I love the idea of a PVP tournament / event. Why defend the typical butchery by the host. This could have been done so much better. I also like the idea of a lingerie fashion show, but would be disappointed when this was the deliverable...
http://i59.tinypic.com/4iou4i.png

240842303
03-10-2015, 01:11 PM
18 hits with droid not one counted why am I not suprised

smbass77
03-10-2015, 01:24 PM
twenty minutes so far looking...not one lit command center. This is about as much fun as watching paint dry.

mieyb3270
03-10-2015, 01:33 PM
Same here, spent about 40 minutes looking, not 1 lit, and the app slows waaaaaay down the more you look at different bases, don't have time for this BS, stopped looking won't finish, and don't care anymore! I actually woke up this morning not caring about playing the game at all today, but was interested in looking at the pvp event.....this pretty much killed the desire to even open it.....the open crate isn't dropping rewards either like it use to....not even setting a timer to open this round.....this is probably my last post unless GREE does something amazing and makes the game fun again.......otherwise as Mr. Wonderful says on shark tank, "your dead to me".

In protest to this stupid event I am upgrading each of my 4 command centers....good luck using mine buuuuahhhahahahahahhahahhaha

Loser
03-10-2015, 01:40 PM
Anyone saying they finished this is just a WindUp merchant. I have now looked at 350 rivals bases. Not 1 CC lit up... Not bothering anymore. Better things to do with my time. Bye

7337

Notice the time on the clock. Event was too easy.

WBS
03-10-2015, 02:02 PM
I thought we wanted the faction pvp event back? I remember this event way back when and it was a failure. Won't have to worry about me trying to hard to complete it

andrew3wt
03-10-2015, 02:05 PM
Really looked forward to the PvP event but as usual Gree didn't think it through. 25 raids of a 24hr building in a 24hr event, seriously!

Next time you guys rollout a new event please try it before release, there is no way this event was reviewed. If it actually was, please fire the person who did the review.

beerandbones22
03-10-2015, 02:24 PM
The pvp event is broken on the second mission, the cc's won't advance beyond 3/25 and a friend of mine is stuck on 1/25. We are both droid. I have hit 3 command centers and should be 9/25. I'm going back to farming BP the event is a waste of time since it doesn't work.

ju100
03-10-2015, 02:27 PM
Damn, I was so looking forward to PvP return. But I think we meant PvP faction event. And asking to attack 25 24h buildings is plain stupid. Easy for low levels, hard or impossible for level 300+...

Sheldor Sir
03-10-2015, 02:40 PM
lvl274 done 3/25 lvl 105 finished in under 3 hrs can't upload from iPhone keeps failing

Greg76
03-10-2015, 02:47 PM
Gree screws up every event, im done with this game

Thief
03-10-2015, 02:59 PM
The reality is they picked basically the worst possible building to "raid"

There is only 1 in everyone base (as opposed to most people have 2-4 of everything) Then people are limited by their rivals list and who collects on time.

Would have been much more fun if they had made it more raids on different buildings supply depots, defense buildings, unit buildings etc.

Those that finished congrats. You happened to be on the game in the first hour game went live or you are in a tier where people rarely play. I don't care about the prize but being able to have fun with this event would have been nice.

fdsdg
03-10-2015, 03:02 PM
What's the prize for finishing 3/3?

Agent Orange
03-10-2015, 03:02 PM
It is impossible and particularly for level 300+ players that have now a very limited list of opponents, great work Gree !

What! Level 300's don't have Guard Towers? Oh dear....

HellRaizer
03-10-2015, 03:07 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/sm6c84.jpg

Done. Dropped my ally count

fdsdg
03-10-2015, 03:08 PM
What's a defense down do?

HellRaizer
03-10-2015, 03:11 PM
What's a defense down do?

Hoping it reduces the enemies def on PvP. Only temp thou :(


http://i60.tinypic.com/2moa78n.jpg

Thief
03-10-2015, 03:27 PM
-2% hahahaha So those players with 4 Trillion Defense will only have 3.92 Trillion Def.

Any Bets if it works or not?

Big John
03-10-2015, 03:34 PM
Could have made it a boost building or raid any money building.

hsf
03-10-2015, 03:36 PM
I like this event. Pretty good.

Didas
03-10-2015, 04:00 PM
Simple math: Each base only has 1 command center and it can only be raided 3 times every 24 hrs. If you need 25 raids in 24 hrs to complete the goal, that means less than 1 in 8 people will be able to complete the 2nd goal.

This doesn't even consider the fact that my counter has been stuck at 18 for the past 9 raids and that my client crashes after visiting 10 bases.

fdsdg
03-10-2015, 04:04 PM
Thanks hellraizer

andrew3wt
03-10-2015, 04:09 PM
Only think I'm happy about, this is the only event where no gold is need, clearly gree didn't think this one through!

garen argon
03-10-2015, 04:14 PM
compared to pvp events in other gree titles; this event is fairly easy. you don't have to find ltb that could only be purchased for gold. it's a standard building that almost everyone has built.

it's out there. they gave the community 24 hours to accomplish the event for a reason.

i will agree that the event is easier for lower level players; as many do not collect on timers unlike the high level counterparts.

those HLP's will have to grind - but will find stage 3/3 fairly easy to do.

andrew3wt
03-10-2015, 04:15 PM
Simple math: Each base only has 1 command center and it can only be raided 3 times every 24 hrs. If you need 25 raids in 24 hrs to complete the goal, that means less than 1 in 8 people will be able to complete the 2nd goal.

This doesn't even consider the fact that my counter has been stuck at 18 for the past 9 raids and that my client crashes after visiting 10 bases.

It's way less than 1 in 8. If a player has collected from their cc, there's 3 raids gone for the whole event. My guess, less then 1% of players will get past 2/3.

crazeejay
03-10-2015, 04:49 PM
Amazing how uptight people get over this lameass event LOL

Greeny1
03-10-2015, 06:01 PM
Agree, it's a 2% reduction which is naff all in the grand scheme of things. Not going have any impact on who you hit really. Totally pointless but at least it's gold free totally pointless!

Kane Sickle
03-10-2015, 06:15 PM
Since I'll never see it and oh so many here finished 2/3 so quickly, please let me know what 3/3 is. I'm lvl 283 and see mostly 300+. It really limits mu options. Y'all tore it up at a slightly lower lvl, i suppose. Thanks.

good gawd noooo
03-10-2015, 06:22 PM
I agree, finished the event 30 minutes ago. I'm sure it will be difficult for level 300+ players though.

congrats on completeing it you were most likely one of the first couple hundred on when they were still up. that chances from that point went way down hill for anyone getting on a couple hours after. it is a 24 hour regen building so everyone that already got hit is done for the entire event then add in those that are collected.. within a few hours due to design flaw players are lucky to find one (and I mean LUCKY) out of 50 bases they visit and each one they claim increase the odds of failure for everyone else.. this event was flawed from conception.. but yes congrats to the people that were on when event started congrats on a very easy to earn prise.. but those of you that got it need to at least realize that it is now at least 50 times harder.. just for gp why don't you try to find 25 more NOW....and maybe you will understand why players are unhappy

Bazze
03-10-2015, 07:08 PM
Searchin for 3hrs now a CC....nothing,nada,niente,nichts....

Ranger89
03-10-2015, 07:11 PM
I searched about 10-15 bases, found two Command Centers to raid, and my counter is still at 0/25. I'm thinking it should at least be 2/25 or maybe even 6/25. Par for the course with GREE. INCOMPETANCE!

Glad I won't be wasting my evening on this flawed Easter Egg Hunt.

cobra101
03-10-2015, 08:40 PM
The event is definitely poorly designed, I am taking a break :)

1brent1
03-10-2015, 08:54 PM
Only think I'm happy about, this is the only event where no gold is need, clearly gree didn't think this one through!

Funny! That's so true.
No gold needed clearly means they didn't think it through!!

I bet you the moron person that said lets make goal 2 be their command center, because everyone will have one on their base which means little easier complete goal. Dumb dumb not thinking its 24hr single payout.

crazeejay
03-10-2015, 08:55 PM
They must've given the 2nd part to everyone. I just logged on and it said I finished it..lol

Major Elvis Newton
03-10-2015, 09:12 PM
Same here. Just advanced to 3/3

andrew3wt
03-10-2015, 09:17 PM
There's a surprise but was the 2/3 unit awarded?

t12pm
03-10-2015, 09:21 PM
Just a thought to all those saying it is harder now, I don't get that thought pattern simply because that would mean every one basically collects them at the same time. I finished mine hours ago and still find them in raiding. We basically all have the same opportunity I found probably 10 times more that were not "lit", but have since seen some of the hoods I revisited raided they were now lit. So it is a lot in timing also

twelve twelve
03-10-2015, 09:22 PM
Looks like the fixed the 2nd goal. Logged in just now and goals for 2/3 is auto done.

sbs2716g
03-10-2015, 09:24 PM
It was awarded as long as you complete 1/3

Kane Sickle
03-10-2015, 09:26 PM
That was the right thing to do. Thanks

NO_BS
03-10-2015, 09:55 PM
Probably thanks to heavy gold spenders complaining about stage 2 where they can't even spend gold to complete it

Rolinz
03-10-2015, 09:58 PM
A GREE "bug"? I completed 1/3 and decided against even attempting 2/3. Went back into the game a few hours later and somehow 2/3 completed without me trying. I do not know how or why. Anyone else have this happen?


UPDATE:

Looks like Gree realized their screw-up but will not admit it by confirming it in the forums???

Everyone should have 2/3 automatically completed!

Would have saved a lot of players time and energy and patience if GREE will only think things through!

t12pm
03-10-2015, 10:13 PM
A GREE "bug"? I completed 1/3 and decided against even attempting 2/3. Went back into the game a few hours later and somehow 2/3 completed without me trying. I do not know how or why. Anyone else have this happen?


UPDATE:

Looks like Gree realized their screw-up but will not admit it by confirming it in the forums???

Everyone should have 2/3 automatically completed!

Would have saved a lot of players time and energy and patience if GREE will only think things through!

So basically for us who hunted and hunted they made our reward useless by giving everyone who started it, see how it works

Dumas
03-10-2015, 10:15 PM
So here is my explanation of why they just now set 2/3 goal to autocomplete!!

Say for example:
300,000 MW accounts
that is 300,000 CC's x 3 hits = 900,000 hits available
well not fully cause say about 15%(I am sure much higher) collected it already
That will only leave 255,000 CC's x 3 = 765,000 hits available
765,000 / 25hits per person = Only 30,600 players can possibly complete event

Even if all 300,000 accts had CC's lit ready to hit 3x then still only 36,000 could complete....

So in this scenario only about 10% of accounts could finish...

So if you are stuck... Go restart you game twice and the 2/3 goal will be completed for you and the second restart the unit will show in your inventory!

Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 10:20 PM
Wow, my complaints got this fixed so everyone could get the goal done. Seems they are listening and this was the right thing to do.

t12pm
03-10-2015, 10:34 PM
Wow, my complaints got this fixed so everyone could get the goal done. Seems they are listening and this was the right thing to do.

Yeah so now the reward is null as everyone gets it, all the ones who searched and searched should send tickets now, main problem was people couldn't throw gold and make it go away

Pidgeot
03-10-2015, 10:51 PM
Yeah so now the reward is null as everyone gets it, all the ones who searched and searched should send tickets now, main problem was people couldn't throw gold and make it go away

I finished the event in the first hour but thats due to me being around. Many could not and each CC taken down was one less for everyone else. This is the best thing to do for the community of players.

sbs2716g
03-10-2015, 11:20 PM
So here is my explanation of why they just now set 2/3 goal to autocomplete!!

Say for example:
300,000 MW accounts
that is 300,000 CC's x 3 hits = 900,000 hits available
well not fully cause say about 15%(I am sure much higher) collected it already
That will only leave 255,000 CC's x 3 = 765,000 hits available
765,000 / 25hits per person = Only 30,600 players can possibly complete event

Even if all 300,000 accts had CC's lit ready to hit 3x then still only 36,000 could complete....

So in this scenario only about 10% of accounts could finish...

So if you are stuck... Go restart you game twice and the 2/3 goal will be completed for you and the second restart the unit will show in your inventory!

should have ask us to raid supply depot instead...

Yee
03-11-2015, 12:33 AM
Bunch of greedtards at their best, screwed those that had spent time and effort hunting for CCs to complete 2/3 but awarded the prize to everyone else.

Is this the trend of giving prizes to everyone for free now, as with the FL awards before it end?

HellRaizer
03-11-2015, 12:53 AM
I personally think it was a shame that it was handed out to everyone.. Wasn't a very useful prize.. It was gold free, and an event were not everyone could come first (gold or not).

beerandbones22
03-11-2015, 01:14 AM
Hate to burst your bubble but #2 wasn't auto completed because people were having a hard time finding CC to hit. It was because the event was broken people were hitting cc and the hits weren't counting. There was 3 of us in my faction alone that had this problem.

Loser
03-11-2015, 02:30 AM
So basically for us who hunted and hunted they made our reward useless by giving everyone who started it, see how it works


Yeah so now the reward is null as everyone gets it, all the ones who searched and searched should send tickets now, main problem was people couldn't throw gold and make it go away


Bunch of greedtards at their best, screwed those that had spent time and effort hunting for CCs to complete 2/3 but awarded the prize to everyone else.

Is this the trend of giving prizes to everyone for free now, as with the FL awards before it end?


I personally think it was a shame that it was handed out to everyone.. Wasn't a very useful prize.. It was gold free, and an event were not everyone could come first (gold or not).

Agreed!
What a useless event LOL!

Vegaman
03-11-2015, 04:04 AM
I personally think it was a shame that it was handed out to everyone.. Wasn't a very useful prize.. It was gold free, and an event were not everyone could come first (gold or not).

Can't believe you think it was alright as was... It was as impossible as opening a tin can with a banana. Should have been thought through before being launched... But then thats a silly idea... Thinking through and testing new releases

Monteverdi
03-11-2015, 04:32 AM
Just a thought to all those saying it is harder now, I don't get that thought pattern simply because that would mean every one basically collects them at the same time. I finished mine hours ago and still find them in raiding. We basically all have the same opportunity I found probably 10 times more that were not "lit", but have since seen some of the hoods I revisited raided they were now lit. So it is a lot in timing also

You are obviously not a level 300+ player, as I can only see the same oponents in my list over and over.

corey0025
03-11-2015, 06:57 AM
You are obviously not a level 300+ player, as I can only see the same oponents in my list over and over.

Exactly, as a level 300 player our rival list now limits us to only seeing lvl 300+ players so for all those out there saying the complaints for the event were unjustified....try seeing the same 10 pages of accounts each time and trying to find a cc. Good luck with that. Level 300 players also tend to be the most active and like pointed out before the building was linked to most of the 24 hr buildings that are collected on a timer for most of us..the building was never going to remain up for anyone to find...so give everyone the unit, call it a wash and try again with a differently designed event that makes it possible for all to complete fairly. Not the people that happened to log on first or who have a bigger pool of targets.

goblue21
03-11-2015, 08:12 AM
what a joke to give it to everyone....

Loser
03-11-2015, 08:17 AM
Couldn't just let the little guys have their day in the sun could you GREE?
Nope, had to give in to the high level crybabies. LMAO!

truthteller
03-11-2015, 09:50 AM
So basically for us who hunted and hunted they made our reward useless by giving everyone who started it, see how it works

you know what they say..........KARMA....is a B :rolleyes:

Loser
03-11-2015, 10:38 AM
GREE
Don't think it will be possible for my team to finish the Epic Boss event.

Can you just go ahead and give us all the wrapper prizes?

We tried hard.

crazeejay
03-11-2015, 11:20 AM
so much butthurt in here..lol

Lo.the.orge
03-11-2015, 01:12 PM
I too finished the event before the prizes were given to everyone... can I get my level reduced and my refills back? Or was it effort wasted???

Loser
03-11-2015, 08:02 PM
I too finished the event before the prizes were given to everyone... can I get my level reduced and my refills back? Or was it effort wasted???


The silence is golden.

I too want my XP removed and stamina refills replaced.

Had I known everyone would be given the rewards I could have used the time to do something constructive...like building model airplanes and banging fat chicks.