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roookey1
02-22-2015, 11:04 AM
Congratulations to Death Knights on a result that will have made some of us speechless!
I'm puzzled though: how can an individual player score > 120m points? I come up with around 50 hours of constant playing when making an average 120-130k per energy. I take none of the respective guys can answer right away as they must be extremely tired now. :rolleyes:
How many points / energy can be pulled out of those L6 monsters? I always wondered because we're probably far from being strong enough to get one down in time.
Pimatsu
02-22-2015, 02:10 PM
Congratulations to Death Knights on a result that will have made some of us speechless!
I'm puzzled though: how can an individual player score > 120m points? I come up with around 50 hours of constant playing when making an average 120-130k per energy. I take none of the respective guys can answer right away as they must be extremely tired now. :rolleyes:
How many points / energy can be pulled out of those L6 monsters? I always wondered because we're probably far from being strong enough to get one down in time.
DK Master T: 132,361,350 pts
Raid 48h = 2880 mins
132,361,350/2880= 45,958 pts/min
roookey1
02-22-2015, 04:55 PM
...is what I was sayin'. :cool:
According to the maths (if they're correct), everyone > 80m would have been hitting that button pretty much non-stop, for 48 hours without any break, sleeping or anything.
Kattora
02-22-2015, 05:21 PM
Our guild did 3 L6 bosses for a total of about 117mil if that is any indication. Stronger guilds may get more points.
Ant venom
02-22-2015, 05:33 PM
Rookeye1 don't forgot the multiple strips for that plus armor and in raids the armors count more than anything else
Crypt Keepers
02-22-2015, 06:05 PM
What Rookey1 doesn't understand is some guys will pay gems and hit the +300% special hit button the whole time...
Now does the math add up?
Ant venom
02-22-2015, 06:20 PM
What Rookey1 doesn't understand is some guys will pay gems and hit the +300% special hit button the whole time...
Now does the math add up?
I also forgot to mention that.
roookey1
02-22-2015, 07:30 PM
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...by now you guys should know that I am well aware (some say, 'whining') of gemming/win-buying of the 'top' guilds. :D
I could make 100k per energy without special strikes with a L3 monster, so with the unbeatable armors DK keep accumulating, a L6 (which the top 3 performing guilds must have summoned, otherwise the points wouldn't add up there) would probably have given 40-50k I take? So if each and every of those strikes counted for 300%, it would still only be ~120-150k per energy, essentially requiring the same: 48 hours of continuous playing without any break, and thumbs that need medical treatment. Did I miss anything?
Pimatsu
02-22-2015, 09:56 PM
Our guild did 3 L6 bosses for a total of about 117mil if that is any indication. Stronger guilds may get more points.
Player don't get Guild Bonus.
Example: lvl3=>player gets around 700k and Guild gets 700k (+ 675k bonus)
Rhaegal
02-22-2015, 09:58 PM
You missed a few things.
1) 70k per hit to 85k per hit is not unreasonable on a level 6 boss using epic+ armors and strong bling.
2) fights on a level 6 boss are much faster than on a level 3/4/5 boss
3) power hits... If you have humongous gems and can power hit every hit you can double your score per e. It just costs a tremendous amount of gems.
So 120m is doable and still get a few hours sleep.... More likely is that someone helped play for them.... But it IS possible for one person to do.
Phill - Immortal GM
02-23-2015, 06:57 AM
You missed a few things.
1) 70k per hit to 85k per hit is not unreasonable on a level 6 boss using epic+ armors and strong bling.
2) fights on a level 6 boss are much faster than on a level 3/4/5 boss
3) power hits... If you have humongous gems and can power hit every hit you can double your score per e. It just costs a tremendous amount of gems.
So 120m is doable and still get a few hours sleep.... More likely is that someone helped play for them.... But it IS possible for one person to do.
Yes, T does blow quite a few K gems purely for Power Attacks. Most of the individual Top 10 do by the way.
Also rookey1, ALL Top 10s and most Top 25s in Raids use pure level 6s.
As pimatsu calculated, give or take 50k per min, taking into consideration he actually hits roughly 70 if not 80k per minute means he has time to eat & even take a few power naps.
I won't go into alone or not on here. As Rhaegal said, it is very possible and if pushed I assure you T would have likely done close to 140M points :p
Rookeye
02-23-2015, 09:05 AM
You missed a few things.
1) 70k per hit to 85k per hit is not unreasonable on a level 6 boss using epic+ armors and strong bling.
2) fights on a level 6 boss are much faster than on a level 3/4/5 boss
3) power hits... If you have humongous gems and can power hit every hit you can double your score per e. It just costs a tremendous amount of gems.
So 120m is doable and still get a few hours sleep.... More likely is that someone helped play for them.... But it IS possible for one person to do.
^ This. The right armor, bling, and gems makes a remarkable difference to one's final score.
Ant venom
02-23-2015, 02:33 PM
But T does get an advantage as he is a high commander giving him a bit more of damage against the raid boss in his favor.
Arkator
02-24-2015, 05:23 PM
You might only be able to get around 40k on lv.6's but the players that raid in DK all the time (like T) have much better armor I assure you and they can make 80k easily on 1 attack against a lv.6 boss especially considering he had a guild champ bonus and most likely some maxed out 4* bling. Plus he probably uses gems on power attacks too.
UP Tide
02-24-2015, 07:01 PM
It doesn't matter...Pay To Win.
Kangaroeland
02-25-2015, 02:29 AM
Even i hit 65k on lvl 6 if the elements are right so i imagine people in danger, dk etc hit way higher. Its all about having the gems and dedication.
roookey1
02-25-2015, 05:31 PM
Thanks for your thoughts guys, interesting. It sounded very odd at first, but there indeed seem to be many ways to achieve such numbers with brand-new war armor and maybe also by applying a bit squeezing of the regulations to workaround these unfortunate (and un-gemmable ;-)) physical limitations. As these results are impossible to achieve for any guild not ready to buy it and to put a lot of energy and time into, I am still touched by the strong dedication and massive effort to reach it.
Kent Chai
02-25-2015, 07:31 PM
Actually since we are on this subject, I would like to suggest to Gree to implement the following function for Raid.
- Implement auto Critical Hit for Raid Boss. the number of clicks that we clicked during Raid Boss is way too many. Per energy we are talking about 20-40 critical hits (Estimate) and for most top players, we are talking about 2000+ attack minimum....therefore we are talking in the range of 40,000 - 80,000 clicks.
Seriously that is way too many clicks for 3 days Raid. Will Gree be sued for Repetitive illnesses....
Kent Chai
02-25-2015, 07:32 PM
Actually since we are on this subject, I would like to suggest to Gree to implement the following function for Raid.
- Implement auto Critical Hit for Raid Boss. the number of clicks that we clicked during Raid Boss is way too many. Per energy we are talking about 20-40 critical hits (Estimate) and for most top players, we are talking about 2000+ attack minimum....therefore we are talking in the range of 40,000 - 80,000 clicks.
Seriously that is way too many clicks for 3 days Raid. Will Gree be sued for Repetitive illnesses....
Phill - Immortal GM
02-26-2015, 01:09 AM
Actually since we are on this subject, I would like to suggest to Gree to implement the following function for Raid.
- Implement auto Critical Hit for Raid Boss. the number of clicks that we clicked during Raid Boss is way too many. Per energy we are talking about 20-40 critical hits (Estimate) and for most top players, we are talking about 2000+ attack minimum....therefore we are talking in the range of 40,000 - 80,000 clicks.
Seriously that is way too many clicks for 3 days Raid. Will Gree be sued for Repetitive illnesses....
While I understand your concern I am not sure as to why GREE should ever do this.
Perhaps make 300% manual, 200% auto-crit.
I don't see anyone hitting 40 crits on level 6s,
you speak of 2000 attacks, which at a rate of 65k/energy (Kanga's example) is 130 Million individual points.
You will usually crit 9-15 times per energy and for a Top 10 Raid minimum of 25 Million at 65k/energy that is 385 Attacks.
So 5775 extra clicks and not 40,000-80,000
So, yes it makes sense, but not with current implementations.
The 200% Auto compared to 300% manual would make manual clicking worth it but it would pose a 'lazy option'
Nice suggestion :)
roookey1
02-26-2015, 04:21 PM
Why not have an auto-mode in the game that has it play all by itself, and we'd just take in our rewards after 3 days? ;)
I would appreciate that during those tiresome and reward-wise, pretty pointless wars. But frankly, not in any other part of the game.
watermelon
02-26-2015, 07:42 PM
...is what I was sayin'. :cool:
According to the maths (if they're correct), everyone > 80m would have been hitting that button pretty much non-stop, for 48 hours without any break, sleeping or anything.
yeah they do that. It's possible. Losing sleep for 48 hours can be done with a lot of coffee.
Also, people who go for top scores have the latest and fastest device.
I confirm that the people who go for top scores truly deserve it. It's done with a lot of hard work and persistence. Haters be haters but I do believe they earned it.
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