Vault lending

[Ryan Haynes]

The other day I seen that someone posted about how there should be a borrowing system in the faction vaults I think it's a great idea because it will get loaned money interest and make Eco better than it is.

[MW Flake]

More trouble than it's worth in the end. This is Gree we are talking about after all.

[Rolinz]

More trouble than it's worth in the end. This is Gree we are talking about after all.

What happens when people don't payback?

More for Gree to apply their Gree Math??? Hell no!

[Pidgeot]

Its a good idea but the game has way too many bugs. Its best just to "ask" for the money and 3 faction officers have to approve the request.

[ezmunie]

LOL The faction leader says NO. Need money, buy it from gree or increase your IPH.

[NexusImperium]

The other day I seen that someone posted about how there should be a borrowing system in the faction vaults I think it's a great idea because it will get loaned money interest and make Eco better than it is.

Thanks, that was actually me:
[Suggestion]Loans from Faction Vault (http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?104193-Suggestion-Loans-from-Faction-Vault)

It was pretty soundly rejected by the folks who like to moan and whine about the game's problems but refuse to allow any sort of constructive change into the game which would alleviate said moaning and whining.

Since the LTB re-introduction was a temporary thing, and new/free players STILL don't have a way to reconcile the huge disparity between income tiers (and the wrecked income economy in the game), I proposed faction loans as a way to bridge that gap.

It really is a pretty good idea.

[Mr llama]

Thanks, that was actually me:
[Suggestion]Loans from Faction Vault (http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?104193-Suggestion-Loans-from-Faction-Vault)

It was pretty soundly rejected by the folks who like to moan and whine about the game's problems but refuse to allow any sort of constructive change into the game which would alleviate said moaning and whining.

Since the LTB re-introduction was a temporary thing, and new/free players STILL don't have a way to reconcile the huge disparity between income tiers (and the wrecked income economy in the game), I proposed faction loans as a way to bridge that gap.

It really is a pretty good idea.Really not a good idea, makes no sense. If people need money they can raid others players like the rest of us do. with all the new building it's almost impossible not to find targets. Seems like campers are the only ones that would benefit from your idea.

[NexusImperium]

Really not a good idea, makes no sense. If people need money they can raid others players like the rest of us do. with all the new building it's almost impossible not to find targets. Seems like campers are the only ones that would benefit from your idea.

I'm not closed-minded about the loan idea, and I get your point.

I wish raiding were a bigger part of the gameplay but the honest truth is that the only players who have the type of income that is worthwhile to be raided are people who've played the game for a very long time. And their level distribution probably favors high 175-250's+. The problem then becomes, if I'm new, or semi-new, I'll have to play the game for ages and ages before being able to reach those folks and start finding bases with the buildings worth raiding. On top of that, these people have defense that is comparatively so high that the newer folks couldn't even touch them anyway. So effectively, that money is out of circulation in the game economy.

Faction loans would supplement this missing money flow in the game by allowing money to flow from the established folks to the unestablished (and not just anyone, you have to be a member of a functioning faction).

[ezmunie]

Raiding is a big part of the game and you can't raid those who've been here forever and have stats out the wazoo anyway. Stay on your level, raid those you can, work on your stats and your IPH and be happy about it.

If Gree ever does the loan thing, no one in my faction will ever qualify.

[Rolinz]

GREEdy prefers you buy their virtual cash with your real cash.

You would be better off going to a casino???

[Captain Steelman]

Faction loan.....? Nah, I rather have a factionmember to factionmember donate button.....

[narsly]

but the honest truth is that the only players who have the type of income that is worthwhile to be raided are people who've played the game for a very long time. And their level distribution probably favors high 175-250's+. The problem then becomes, if I'm new, or semi-new, I'll have to play the game for ages and ages before being able to reach those folks and start finding bases with the buildings worth raiding.

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Welcome to the game...

[crazeejay]

Faction loan.....? Nah, I rather have a factionmember to factionmember donate button.....

That would be cool

[danman_085]

Faction loan.....? Nah, I rather have a factionmember to factionmember donate button.....

I agree with Captain Steelman. It would be nice if allies or faction members were able to donate cash to each other. Either visit an allies base & have a donate option, or if you select a faction members profile having a donate option.

[Rolinz]

Faction loan.....? Nah, I rather have a factionmember to factionmember donate button.....

That is a better idea to "donate" rather than "loan".

However, like I stated before, this would hurt GREE's ability to sell virtual cash.

[Pidgeot]

Raiding is kind of pointless though. Battle points are needed for rank so you can raid for that but there are hardly any good raid targets.

I think there should be a trade system but you already know what I'm going to say.

[Captain Buck Slayer]

I think player to player lending would be better :D

[danman_085]

Since we're throwing out pipedreams, why not allow other items to be given to other players. What about giving an ally or faction mate energy, health or stamina refills? If the player donating is willing to give them up, I say let them have at it. Think about all those accounts that have recently been nuked because they were fed up with the issues. How many energy, health or stamina refills do you think were wasted? I myself would love to have some extra energy refills, as I feel that 1k energy for 20 gold or one refill is a joke. But that's for another thread. Most play this game for fun & have made many online friends because of this game. If players want to help other players by giving them some of their stuff, why not let them?

[fighter777]

That is a better idea to "donate" rather than "loan".

However, like I stated before, this would hurt GREE's ability to sell virtual cash.

What idiots actually buy virtual cash? lol

[Robespierre]

My pipe dream is to attack players with bare bases (quit players) and be able to get their bridge jumpers/tomcats/covert jet fighters as prizes.

Then be able to have my multiple LLPs get enough cash for frontline to get the 10/10 bonus prize every time through "loans" or "gifts" or whatever.

Then use those gifts to build my LLP's economy to increase IPH from all of the recently released LTBs.

Then a huge loan can supplement a recycling spree for growlers or whatever into valor for indestructible units.

Yeah...the whole thing sounds like a great pipe dream.

Then my pipe dream would be to have the designers view me as a game player, rather than a pile of entrails that their wolf managers are about to devour for the designers to receive their quarterly bonus.

My pipe dreams may be a bit demented, but after all, I've been sucked into playing this game for so long, so I must have a mental defect that didn't make me hit the delete button a long time ago when the QA issues were just annoying, rather than expected. I mean really, is this what it feels like to be in an abusive relationship? "Oh ...you know, he really loves me...these bruises....nah, they're just glitches, and they're really working in improving....they say so every week."

There is some sick psychology going on here that is truly worth a study.

[MW Flake]

The mentality behind an abusive relationship sounds pretty accurate, maybe even more so than the addict/pusher one.

[NexusImperium]

Then my pipe dream would be to have the designers view me as a game player, rather than a pile of entrails that their wolf managers are about to devour for the designers to receive their quarterly bonus.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This is so apropos.

All the problems that the game is experiencing point to the purchase of Funzio as purely a grab at a revenue stream and nothing to do with dedication to a gameplay experience.

Well, by that I mean minimum effort required to maintain said revenue stream.

[East Coast Bias]

My dream is to have all the targets be naked, to be able to stack all my boost building on top of each other, to have 13 deadly bridge jumpers and still not be banned, to ask my secretary to watch android videos for me (and do my 150 one hit bosses) and have gree be taken over by the Chinese government so that my game play becomes more stable and I am allowed to play without th need of a VPN.

[MW Flake]

My dream would be for SuperCell to buy Gree's gaming titles.

[Main ASSASSIN]

This is just a cell phone app still right? We are not talking about a new Modern War for xbox, mac, or playstations are we? All these features are crazy for just an app. How would it be ok for long time players who built up their bases "OVER TIME", be trumped by the ability to just simply donate to whoever needs cash? Streamlining past efforts into a quick process. This game was simple once. Now it is full of whining and needy trolls. Leave the game as is and move on. The equipment factor has changed wd for the worse. Its already a complete unfair advantage for older players against newer weaker players who complete all ltqs. Why give more advantages to new players? Its pathetic if you want the truth. Play the game, put in the time(if your still interested in the game), and eventually you will be able to look down at the little guys and laugh and understand my thoughts. The features you all want added are just to complex and unnecessary for a cell phone app. Good luck to you all though. Keep it fun!

Punisher
Celestial Soldiers
253-379-021

Bring your A game!

[danman_085]

How would it be ok for long time players who built up their bases "OVER TIME", be trumped by the ability to just simply donate to whoever needs cash? Streamlining past efforts into a quick process. This game was simple once. Now it is full of whining and needy trolls. Leave the game as is and move on.

Main ASSASSIN, Captain Steelman & myself are long term players. He's been playing longer than I have. If we want to help others in the game by giving them cash why is it such an issue? Some players have played for so long & have outstanding IPH, but nothing much to do with it now. Unless they purchased the recently re-released LE buildings. One decision of GREE that I can finally approve of. I find it ironic that you complain about "whining and needy trolls", & then one sentence later you indulge in whining yourself. Pot meet kettle. I do agree that this new equipment has thrown a wrench into the game play for long term players. The truth about the new equipment is that with it being a new addition to the game it is weighed too heavily. Especially into the longest running faction based event of the game, WD. Which in turn essentially voids years of work into increasing stats. If we players didn't voice our opinions & concerns this game may not have progressed to what it is now. All we can do is ask, all GREE is going to do is........nothing.

Colonel Spencer
CHAOS Empire Bravo Regiment

[Cannot Connect To Server]

many threads still keep saying videos on android ... its bull there are no videos havent bn a long time even if u follow the tips posted here thr still are no videos or free gold from installing apps nothing is free in a gree game except the grief and suffering we get from trying to play this buggy crap.

as for loans and player to player donating when i read it on other threads i too tht cld be a good idea or if something like it was around but... it as many hv said ppl would borrow and not pay back etc

but the biggest issue would be all the players that made minis took them into the high facs got those high units off ltqs rb etc

they would then be able to fund them with cash too.

so real new players would stand no chance against bases level 2-10 with unlimited donations coming in as well as the boost and super units from top ltqs.

the games already screwed cos of gree and it would be harder for new players they are trying to sucker in.

now with equipment things are different and as with units that then needed boosts the new ltq is giving multiple equipment.... so i think once ppl get so many and it starts to lower its effect gree will bring in super eq and boost eq and try mk things go up again that way just like before.

there will prob be a new store too with even higher units as most dont do anything for bases that are high stat anyways.

then they will try bring out something else and it starts all over again.... gree already destroyed the real mw game long time ago. once u start and get to x level u dont ever play game goals only ltqs. the game has been gone a long time and what we got used to has been cough upgraded again.

sorry for any typos crappy browser cant see most what i type until posted.

[GGG]

What I hear is "some members of my faction have tons of money thanks to the Arjun Tank glitch, I wasn't able to get mine while the getting was good. I need money to upgrade my buildings and expand my base...please allow we to borrow money from my wealthy friends"

[MW Flake]

I'm hearing something slightly different. "I don't want to overcome the same hurdles everyone else did. I want you to make it so I can jump to the front of the line, and I'm going to stomp my feet and hold my breath until you do."

[GGG]

I'm hearing something slightly different. "I don't want to overcome the same hurdles everyone else did. I want you to make it so I can jump to the front of the line, and I'm going to stomp my feet and hold my breath until you do."

Oh, I hear that too. Trust me....lound and clear.