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MW Flake
01-08-2015, 03:22 PM
So you lock all of the threads discussing the gold prices, and direct everyone to a LOCKED thread. Are we not permitted to discuss this?

truthteller
01-08-2015, 03:31 PM
Still trying for that mod position?

Sure the increase came about because of apples doing, but there is nothing stopping Gree from making price cuts where needed to keep the playing field level. I'm not offering an opinion as to whether they should or shouldn't make any price adjustments, just pointing out that at the end of the day Gree is ultimately in charge of what it's customers will pay.

I hate to say this, but GREE is innocent on this price hike, I live in Canada and it now cost $119.99 for a vault, that is the same as $99.99 USD CURRENCY, the exchange rate between the US and Canada unfortunately is 20%, thus I am still technically paying the same $100 USD for a vault.

On the other hand, this will be a HUGE blow to gree's revenue as many EU and Canadian (and other non US based currency countries) players will stop or reduce the amount of gold they buy

I for once, may just wait until next Black Friday to buy gold, if I ever decide to buy again

truthteller
01-08-2015, 03:33 PM
@Hellraizer, why are you closing threads regarding gold price??????

I believe we are not violating TOS and we have the right to talk about it

Please clarify what gives you the justification to close them

legalious
01-08-2015, 03:39 PM
I was closing them. Duplicate posts in each gaming forum. We will be unlocking the first original thread for discussion, but will lock out the duplicate ones and redirect them to the open ones.

MW Flake
01-08-2015, 03:42 PM
I was closing them. Duplicate posts in each gaming forum. We will be unlocking the first original thread for discussion, but will lock out the duplicate ones and redirect them to the open ones.

Lol, yeah nice story there. Funny the only thread in the KA forum discussing it got locked as well. I take it you have a bridge your trying to sell?

Momocha
01-08-2015, 03:43 PM
Hi MW Flake,

I closed some threads that were made on the topic before I placed up our official post regarding it to avoid confusion.

I'll be re-opening the oldest post on the topic in the Modern War forum as well as others so that players who wish to discuss this are able to do so. However, all other posts regarding this may be closed to avoid duplicate posts and directed to the one left open for discussion.

To continue the discussion, please use this post (http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?103978-Wtf-has-happened-to-gold-prices)

MW Flake
01-08-2015, 03:48 PM
Whatever your intent, your actions CREATED confusion and DISTRUST. While you may think we should be used to it by now, that in no way makes it right.

ichbin
01-08-2015, 04:12 PM
In other words Momocha, he's 12 years old and is taking his football home so you can't play! How dare you clean up the forum! :eek:

'MAU' Mirsad-Ra
01-08-2015, 04:34 PM
I hate to say this, but GREE is innocent on this price hike, I live in Canada and it now cost $119.99 for a vault, that is the same as $99.99 USD CURRENCY, the exchange rate between the US and Canada unfortunately is 20%, thus I am still technically paying the same $100 USD for a vault.

On the other hand, this will be a HUGE blow to gree's revenue as many EU and Canadian (and other non US based currency countries) players will stop or reduce the amount of gold they buy

I for once, may just wait until next Black Friday to buy gold, if I ever decide to buy again

As a Fellow Canadian I disagree with your statement. So when the US Dollar was down how come Apple didn't reflect that and adjust it. They only adjust it when the US gains strength. Gree as a business have to fight for the customers and take this frustration to Apple and fight for us. Americans only change the Prize as long as it benefits them. You as a Canadian should know that. We always talk about free trade in Canada and USA but when Canadian dollar was 10% stronger there were no Changes made in ITunes or in any other US items.

Oski
01-08-2015, 04:49 PM
The only way to get a mod to act is to say something bad about GreeD.

truthteller
01-08-2015, 04:56 PM
As a Fellow Canadian I disagree with your statement. So when the US Dollar was down how come Apple didn't reflect that and adjust it. They only adjust it when the US gains strength. Gree as a business have to fight for the customers and take this frustration to Apple and fight for us. Americans only change the Prize as long as it benefits them. You as a Canadian should know that. We always talk about free trade in Canada and USA but when Canadian dollar was 10% stronger there were no Changes made in ITunes or in any other US items.


1- Agree, gree can work on a way to maintain prices, but will probably will not as that adjustment would had to come at their revenues cost

2- I think apple waited until exchange rate were 15% or higher in difference to make their adjustment, in Canada we have been at 20% rate exchange difference for a few months now! which applets probably sees as a "steady and stable" difference thus making the adjustment

I live near the US border, maybe if I go to the state over the weekend, I get to see the gold at US prizes and buy when there if decide to continue spending

legalious
01-08-2015, 04:56 PM
The only way to get a mod to act is to say something bad about GreeD.

I am also quick to read/post for KnD updates, spammers and vulgar language. Though I do read everything. :rolleyes:

crazeejay
01-08-2015, 05:34 PM
1- Agree, gree can work on a way to maintain prices, but will probably will not as that adjustment would had to come at their revenues cost

2- I think apple waited until exchange rate were 15% or higher in difference to make their adjustment, in Canada we have been at 20% rate exchange difference for a few months now! which applets probably sees as a "steady and stable" difference thus making the adjustment

I live near the US border, maybe if I go to the state over the weekend, I get to see the gold at US prizes and buy when there if decide to continue spending

Dude give your head a shake!!

truthteller
01-08-2015, 05:41 PM
Dude give your head a shake!!

I do my grocery shopping in the states once a month, even with the low exchange rate, I save tons of cash

:cool:

crazeejay
01-08-2015, 06:29 PM
I do my grocery shopping in the states once a month, even with the low exchange rate, I save tons of cash

:cool:

Yeah I hear ya. I'm right by the border as well but I'd be damned if I'm gonna buy gold while in the states and thinking i'm getting a deal. It's a joke anymore..lol

Mikelord
01-08-2015, 08:00 PM
Yeah I hear ya. I'm right by the border as well but I'd be damned if I'm gonna buy gold while in the states and thinking i'm getting a deal. It's a joke anymore..lol

Why don't you Dew Nuttin about it then

crazeejay
01-08-2015, 08:27 PM
Why don't you Dew Nuttin about it then and what do you think I'm doing? LOL go get your panties unbunched and you'll feel better

lemonhaze
01-08-2015, 11:34 PM
Dude give your head a shake!!

LMAO!! i was thinking same thing after reading his first post! seriously gonna drive across the border to buy some fake virtual gold

Ozymandias
01-09-2015, 02:03 AM
Gold on Android in the UK is still at £63 versus £91 on IOS. Plus a 4 hour 20% off sale on now for me

Sheldor Sir
01-09-2015, 02:13 AM
In UK at todays exchange rate vault costs $139 (£92) so thank you Apple / Gree for making it a simple choice

Ozymandias
01-09-2015, 02:23 AM
Uk has gone down to 79.99 for me now..lol, still an easy choice though

Sheldor Sir
01-09-2015, 02:51 AM
yep vault costs $120.97 (£79.99) so still a simple choice, even Black Friday, will not make me buy more and after doing load of Tapjoy tasks and getting nothing at all (even response to support.......doesnt that sound familiar!
Must admit Adam on CS linked all my different MW games on different Game centre id's to just one so credit where its due :-)

Ozymandias
01-09-2015, 02:52 AM
£63 on android

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 03:07 AM
imo if ppl can save on things it makes sense to do so. not everyone is rich. every cent counts.

so if someone goes accross the border and saves loads thats good for them and still stores etc get theyre chunk. its no different to ppl on vacation.

i dont buy gold i dont ever purchase anything online as i got ripped off years ago on a popular e auction site cough bay so never buy online and sure am not buying virtual im not rich i barely get to fkn eat.

but after reading so many threads here and posts elsewhr i do wonder what happens if a player is on vacation and they want to buy gold?

if an American is on vacation in Canada or Europe would they have to pay Euro or Canadian prices like the would for regular store shopping or cos its online wld it just go thru as a USA purchase?

as i dont shop for anything online and i also dont vacation i dont know the answer but ppl on chat say if they go EU they wont be buying gold while thr due to higher prices.

but would it be higher if they are using their usa device abroad?

unknown....

i think if a company is a national or international company prices for all items should be the same.

in my country i could shop at a store in x town or go 1-3 km to next town to same stores and pay less.

that i think is wrong just because areas are different the stores ie walmart . cosco. 7-11 or whatever should be the same prices.

(just using store names most ppl may hv heard of these stores are just names it does not mean i shop thr. some stores dont even exist in some places).

anyways i know diff countries do things differebtly. but if ur an online company surely its only fair to make all prices the same globally?

Gree is Japanese but uses USA pricing.??..and i think someone said usa is the main set price which has not changed?? if a vault is x price in usa then imo surely all players should be seeing same price as they are buying from the same company? as if all pricing is set for usa then all players should be adjusted to pay usa price.

ermmm if i was to go online to a store thats usa only and buy whatever would they then be able to say oh you are not in the usa were going to charge u 50% extra? again i dont shop online but if that does happen i never will try again.

anyways im just talking outloud trying to figure things out that i do not know the answer to as i do not shop online.

dan2407
01-09-2015, 03:17 AM
So let's get this straight, a vault on android is £17 cheaper and they get to watch unlimited free gold videos, good job gree

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 03:21 AM
hi thrs no videos on android. i had abt 20 in 2 years nothing for over 6 months.

there are no videos and ttapjoy apps dont pay gold too. so thr is no free gold on my android anyways.

dan2407
01-09-2015, 03:23 AM
hi thrs no videos on android. i had abt 20 in 2 years nothing for over 6 months.

there are no videos and taojot apps dont pay gold too. so thr is no free gold on my android anyways.

No offence but you obviously have no idea what your talking about if you think there isn't a way to get unlimited free videos android, unless your bluffing and are saying that in the worry that gree will read what i put and fix then

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 03:31 AM
hello i am stating a fact on my android. ive only had abt 20 videos in 2 years. and no videos in 6 months at least.

what i didnt get to add was most of the videos did not pay gold too and after contacting tapjoy they said the videos on the other button are supplied by adcolony and after writing to gree and adcolony i still never got the gold and no get no videos at all again just like before.

as far as ive always read its only ppl in usa and canada that get unlimited or 30/40/50 a day which ppl outsidevthe usa hv always said is unfair. mw is an international game yet depending on whr ur country is players seem to get treated differently.

that is un fair.

and as said i am only replying to ur post saying android gets unlimited videos and i clealy state on MINE I DO NOT. maybe others can i do not know.

if there is a way to get videos and unlimited videos then please share cos i would be happy to hv even 10-20 videos a month over none at all.

HellRaizer
01-09-2015, 03:34 AM
hi thrs no videos on android. i had abt 20 in 2 years nothing for over 6 months.

there are no videos and ttapjoy apps dont pay gold too. so thr is no free gold on my android anyways.

Maybe something is messed up with your advertising id.. this can be reset on Apple and Android

Android
1. From the available apps list, locate and tap the Google Settings icon.
2. Tap the Ads option from the Google Settings interface.
3. Once the Ads window comes up, tap Reset advertising ID.
4. On the Reset advertising ID confirmation box, tap OK to provide your consent to reset your Google advertising ID.

Apple
1. Go into the Settings app
2. Open Privacy
3. At the bottom, open Advertising
4. Then chose to "Reset Advertising Identifier




....And yes it is cheaper on Android, as Google haven't copied Apple's policy yet, so for the moment, if you have a spare android device (or bluestacks), link your game centre account to your play account and then make the purchase on android.

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 03:44 AM
im hvn signal problems trying to edit typos my browser doesnt scroll to the right so a lot of what i write is off screen and if i try edit the screen jumps all about. using android browser.

so typing here.

thank you for tip on how to reset i will try and find that and do that.someone else did say it might be cos my devoce using old android 2.3? i dont know.

but as said i dont get videos and some didnt pay gold and even now i installed abt ten apps off tapjoy and didnt get gold. i still hv these apps installed for 3 weeks.

it clearly said on tapjoy download and run and ive played them many times but still got no gold for them.

i wrote to tapjoy for each one they replied to all under 1 email saying i installed one app 2 years ago and got my 1 gold closed ticket.but they did not say anything even after further emails ive sent after.

i still play these games and i know ive never played them before the one they said i did was by igg a slot machine game. i cant remember what i tried 3 years or 2 years ago as most i try and delete i only keep what i play.

thank you for tip i will try that and see if videos then show up.

HellRaizer
01-09-2015, 03:50 AM
im hvn signal problems trying to edit typos my browser doesnt scroll to the right so a lot of what i write is off screen and if i try edit the screen jumps all about. using android browser.

so typing here.

thank you for tip on how to reset i will try and find that and do that.someone else did say it might be cos my devoce using old android 2.3? i dont know.

but as said i dont get videos and some didnt pay gold and even now i installed abt ten apps off tapjoy and didnt get gold. i still hv these apps installed for 3 weeks.

it clearly said on tapjoy download and run and ive played them many times but still got no gold for them.

i wrote to tapjoy for each one they replied to all under 1 email saying i installed one app 2 years ago and got my 1 gold closed ticket.but they did not say anything even after further emails ive sent after.

i still play these games and i know ive never played them before the one they said i did was by igg a slot machine game. i cant remember what i tried 3 years or 2 years ago as most i try and delete i only keep what i play.

thank you for tip i will try that and see if videos then show up.

The Advertising ID was introduced on version 2.3. So here's hoping :)

Zepson
01-09-2015, 04:21 AM
Dear GREE, the only thing we want to know is if it would be possible to put up a 40% sale for Canada and EU when it's a 20% sale in the US. If not, you will lose a lot of money and customers. There is not one non-American in my faction that is willing to pay these new prices, just saying...

MW Flake
01-09-2015, 05:09 AM
In other words Momocha, he's 12 years old and is taking his football home so you can't play! How dare you clean up the forum! :eek:

So says what I'm guessing is the 8 year old that can't comprehend that locking every single thread discussing the topic is not cleaning things up.

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 05:36 AM
i agree with ppl posting in various threads its up to the player to play how they want...either free or to pay their way.

but gree controls both either way.. ltqs fltqs are so high u need energy or gold to beat them.. and they reset sm pplpremapping which imo is wrong as i used to premap long before facs as it was away to mk cash off maps for upgrades. how each person plays should be down to each player not gree.as we allhv diff time zones diff times we can get on diff random factors like factions and who raids us and so on every game is unique to each player so we should be allowrd to play our own ways. and if sm ppl want to pay to get thru ltqs and some dont again theyre choice.

as for the off topic now of videos... i tried the reset still hv no videos on left button. turned off turned on no videos...reswt again..off on no videos went to tapjoy thrs videos for castle clash and 2 others they played ok and paid 1 gold each.

now no videos again lol.

so as for left button same as its been years and for tapjoy unknown if more videos will show later or if installing apps will now pay out or not.

but thank you for the help. maybe videos may show up later or in few days or something i dont know. bye.

Cannot Connect To Server
01-09-2015, 05:43 AM
i still thk there should be a fair way for all to get free gold.

either a get x amount of videos a day for every player.

then its up to the player if they choose to select to watch them that day. (or even 1 video per hour and u hv to come back after hour is also fair tho wld ps a lot of ppl off who wld rather watch several at once then free up the day).

and/or a building that pays gold even if its low like 1 bar per level per day so max 10 gold at level 10 a day.

thats fair.

and those who want to buy more gold for real should also all hv one price as for a fact they are not purchasing a real item.

its not real. it doesnt grow it doesnt come from farm land it doesnt need drivers or loaders or shipping costs etc.

its just virtual nothings. a bunch of numbers on a screen.

so it should be same price for all.

SUPpose So
01-09-2015, 06:02 AM
Do they dont they have control over their pricing stucture...

The truth seems to be they do, as the gold price has been changed back...

Someone is telling "Porky Pies"..

HellRaizer
01-09-2015, 06:06 AM
I replied in another thread. please try to avoid opening even more threads.

Apple sets pricing tiers. see this link for the 2014 pricing tier matrix. Gree use tier 60 for vaults

http://forecomm.mptw.fr/templates/PriceMatrix.html

SUPpose So
01-09-2015, 06:10 AM
This is a new debate on why GREE hiked the rates, after a storm of protest they put the price back.. Therefore this demonstrates that GREE have control of their pricing structure as we players suspected not apple.

apples rates are overheads! A cost of doing business on their site. They as you well know do not set GREE SELLING RATE..

That is the point of this thread.

HellRaizer
01-09-2015, 06:16 AM
On iTunes connect. - Developer and Business access (which i longer have as i don't have time to dev), apple has a matrix as I posted above. Developers/business do pick straight out of that matrix..

Gree uses tier 60 for vaults which is $99 .. No what I can't says is if somehow the wrong tier was then applied when apple released the new matrix..

That would need someone from Gree to explain

dan2407
01-09-2015, 06:18 AM
Do they dont they have control over their pricing stucture...

The truth seems to be they do, as the gold price has been changed back...

Someone is telling "Porky Pies"..


I don't know about the rest of Europe but the price in England is still £10 more than it was at £79.99 so no the prices haven't been put back to normal so please before making a thread like this collect all info first

SUPpose So
01-09-2015, 06:32 AM
I don't know about the rest of Europe but the price in England is still £10 more than it was at £79.99 so no the prices haven't been put back to normal so please before making a thread like this collect all info first


Maybe you need to refresh your app.. My UK rates are back as was.

Alicantesteve
01-09-2015, 06:37 AM
Rather greedy to be honest stating that it's to do with tax,vat and currency changes
No new tax increases here in the UK,for some years.
Vat hasn't increased in the UK since around 2010/2011.
Current currency fluctuations means that the UK price should have gone down as you get more $ to the£

DEWIN NUTTIN
01-09-2015, 06:41 AM
Price increases on a non-existent thing, amazing.
Yeah, buy all of that marvelous "gold" you can acquire.
What a steal, for SOMEONE. SHEESH.....

Dal7691
01-09-2015, 06:43 AM
Prices in UK have not gone back to what they was pre the hike to £91.99 for a vault it was £69.99 it is now £79.99 and the other options are also higher

SUPpose So
01-09-2015, 06:55 AM
Prices in UK have not gone back to what they was pre the hike to £91.99 for a vault it was £69.99 it is now £79.99 and the other options are also higher

Yep now a different rate again to just now. Thanks for correcting me.

Still strange how its beyond GREE's control when this is now the 4th rate for gold in 24hrs...£69.99 to £91.99 to free (yes no price) to £69.99 to £79.99.
Not that it really matters as most of us are gold free now.

But as said at the begining its about trust and honesty and once again GREE say they have no control then they do.....

truthteller
01-09-2015, 07:12 AM
well. In Canada prices remain at $119.99 ( $20 increase from before)

Ozymandias
01-09-2015, 07:24 AM
Just out of interest, now that characters aren't platform linked, what's to stop gree offering gold refills dircect,via a website, rather than going through iTunes or play?

NexusImperium
01-09-2015, 09:58 AM
Just out of interest, now that characters aren't platform linked, what's to stop gree offering gold refills dircect,via a website, rather than going through iTunes or play?

Good question. My guess is that there are some terms and conditions that an app developer has to agree to in order to have an app published to the store. One of those agreements might be that you must use them as your payment processor for in-app purchases.

Did you guys know that Apple gets as much as 30% of the money you spend on this game? So if you run your card for that vault of gold Apple comes away with $30 of it. Surprised?

I know a lot of people are upset with Gree over the cost of gold but really, people ought to be directing their pitchforks at Apple. That place is crooked.

J1mcrane
01-09-2015, 12:53 PM
So are the price changes not affected on android?

truthteller
01-09-2015, 01:03 PM
So are the price changes not affected on android?

not yet
price changes are only on IOS devices since it is APPLE setting adjustments to their price matrix
who knows if in the very near future google play decided to also make price adjustments

Who dares wins
01-09-2015, 03:39 PM
Not gree this time ( I no shocking as it is ) Apple just Changing vat rates and other values of currency aka exchange rates change quickly

J1mcrane
01-09-2015, 03:43 PM
Time to switch platforms then!

lemonhaze
01-09-2015, 04:22 PM
Time to switch platforms then!

or switch ur itune account to usa based

crazeejay
01-09-2015, 05:14 PM
I know a lot of people are upset with Gree over the cost of gold but really, people ought to be directing their pitchforks at Apple. That place is crooked.
They're both crooked as all hell. Never give Gree the benefit of the doubt!

dan2407
01-09-2015, 05:24 PM
or switch ur itune account to usa based

Doesn't work as your billing address shows your in a different country