This Upcoming Battle Will Be...

[Winnson]

Fill in the rest here!

I think it will be interesting and awesome, and would love to hear what other players think!

Merry Christmas!

[-Batman-]

Well it will be the first battle weekend doubtful I will use gold on

[Winnson]

Agreed. You could spend tons of gold on this battle or just flush dollar bills down the toilet.

Isn't that exciting!?

[Thatkidyouknow]

This battle will be new, interesting and the first battle which Intel will be entirely useless unless your stats(KP and accomplice too) demolish theirs.

[Evan1000]

I think it will suck. I don't have enough gold to lose every other attack I make

[sister morphine]

It's gonna start being fun once we've all got multiple accomplices in all categories. ;)

[Oh_TheHorror]

I'm anticipating defensive wins going up.

[spiderman]

I'm anticipating defensive wins going up.

Indeed, Mate. Happy gaming.

[Nighteg]

Well, it's a disaster so far.

[sister morphine]

Well, it's a disaster so far.
Yeah, sucks so far...

If you don't use gold stick to hitting wall and cc :rolleyes:

[Evan1000]

We got a lucky first matchup of a T150 with plenty of targets.. I'm sure next won't be

[Evan1000]

Yeah, sucks so far...

If you don't use gold stick to hitting wall and cc :rolleyes:

I miss being a wall hitter, I didn't have to worry about not having targets or ever losing an attack

[bobcnn]

it will be a good time to be retired from cc.

[TheWarthog]

A clusterfornication.

[Dr.Blaine]

This sucks! Does anone even understand how you win or lose now? What is it based on?

[Winnson]

Wall hits I can win. Weeee

[1Shot]

I have 7 wins and 18 losses this is madness and I'm wasting gold.

[-Batman-]

I am actually doing very well so far 36 wins and 1 loss

[Evan1000]

At 20 wins and a loss and I'm doing decent, the one loss wad me stupidly misreading Intel.. still should've won that attack had it not been for the involving of the opponent's ask stats.. for whatever reason GREE thought that was a good idea

[-Batman-]

At 20 wins and a loss and I'm doing decent, the one loss wad me stupidly misreading Intel.. still should've won that attack had it not been for the involving of the opponent's ask stats.. for whatever reason GREE thought that was a good idea

does seen dumb adding att stats but due to that can see me getting a lot more DW

[Evan1000]

does seen dumb adding att stats but due to that can see me getting a lot more DW

Just realized how many spelling errors I had reading that over.. stupid android swipe.

And yes the involving of attack** stats (not ask) is completely retarded.

Defensive wins are a good thing but you're losing Judd add many of your own attacks as you are winning others, and I'll take my own attack vs defensive any day

[sister morphine]

This sucks! Does anone even understand how you win or lose now? What is it based on?
Think I've got it figured out now..... at least, this works for me. (will add some pix later after doctoring names)

So, stats are 50% of a fight, mafia accomplices 30% and kingpin 20%. To win you need to score 50% or better, which explains how you can win if your stat attack is big enough even if you "lose" in the other two categories.

The margin needed to win a category decisively is 4:1. Get that in stats and you win regardless.

If you win by 4:1 in one of the accomplices categories then a 2:1 margin in stats should be enough to take the victory. As I think should be a simple win in both other categories.

When you don't have the clear margin in any category is where your opponents attack vs your defence starts coming into play.

So far I've no info on what might happen if you win both accomplice categories but lose on stats; would you need to get a 4:1 margin in both those to overcome a stats loss? Any input welcomed.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps0cc1d8f0.jpg
Before war. Even nearly x3 win in stats isn't good enough.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps8cfe3d49.jpg
Also before war. X4 stats margin beats losses in the other two areas.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps414d5cd1.jpg
Straightforward win everywhere.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps778e3182.jpg
X2 stats win and narrower wins in the others good enough?

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps376c9ec1.jpg
X3 stats win and win in one other category good enough?

On the other hand I have lost once in this war despite "winning" in all three areas when the margin was less than 2:1.

[Red BD]

Fill in the rest here!

I think it will be interesting and awesome, and would love to hear what other players think!

Merry Christmas!

... Going to be good, but the matching of syndicates seems whacked out. Half(or more) of my people can't begin to play and the other half can only win if they dump gold (an exaggeration, but).
Wait? Was that the idea?
Merry Christmas

[Oh_TheHorror]

I have 7 wins and 18 losses this is madness and I'm wasting gold.

That's odd. You seem surprised.

[Winnson]

This is the most brutal I've done in a long long time. You don't have enough information even after hitting and losing to judge whether you might win one.

If attack and defense both count towards defense, it would be nice to see them both.

LOL, what a hot mess of confusion.

Getting super duper tough teams doesn't help either I guess. Whatever.

[Captain Torgue]

This sucks! Does anone even understand how you win or lose now? What is it based on?

It's based on how much you lift brah, same as always.

[HavingFun]

I have 7 wins and 18 losses this is madness and I'm wasting gold.

Gold isn't light, sounds as if you need to lift more. Remember to use your legs, 7 wins is way too weak!!

[Winnson]

I gotta get to the gym.

[Winnson]

OK, so.

Thanks to Sis's post above and me crushing some serious weight, I think I got a handle on this.

We started off rough, but if you lift enough, brother, you're going to be ok.

Either that or you're gay. Anyway.

The important thing is to lift.

[Cain!!]

Loving it. I've gone from hater to lover

[bad billy]

I went from being a top 2500 syndicate and a top 15000 player to nothing. I cant win any fights. This new update has killed a single player like myself.

[Winnson]

An abortion. If both players' ATT and DEF factor into whether we can win or lose a hit, we need to be able to see them both.

Ain't no one paying/working for invisible stats.

[smokey77]

I`m getting on better than usual this battle I should finish well inside top 1500 and top 6000 individual which is pretty good for me ! I`m definately winning a lot more fights than usual and seems to be a fairer selection of people that I`m coming up against .

[bobcnn]

Think I've got it figured out now..... at least, this works for me. (will add some pix later after doctoring names)

So, stats are 50% of a fight, mafia accomplices 30% and kingpin 20%. To win you need to score 50% or better, which explains how you can win if your stat attack is big enough even if you "lose" in the other two categories.

The margin needed to win a category decisively is 4:1. Get that in stats and you win regardless.

If you win by 4:1 in one of the accomplices categories then a 2:1 margin in stats should be enough to take the victory. As I think should be a simple win in both other categories.

When you don't have the clear margin in any category is where your opponents attack vs your defence starts coming into play.

So far I've no info on what might happen if you win both accomplice categories but lose on stats; would you need to get a 4:1 margin in both those to overcome a stats loss? Any input welcomed.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps0cc1d8f0.jpg
Before war. Even nearly x3 win in stats isn't good enough.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps8cfe3d49.jpg
Also before war. X4 stats margin beats losses in the other two areas.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps414d5cd1.jpg
Straightforward win everywhere.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps778e3182.jpg
X2 stats win and narrower wins in the others good enough?

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/SisterMorphine63/null_zps376c9ec1.jpg
X3 stats win and win in one other category good enough?

On the other hand I have lost once in this war despite "winning" in all three areas when the margin was less than 2:1.

I have info if you win both accomplice categories but lose on stats.
My teammate's lv 54 mini is killing other teams' lv 250 players.
ATK 95M vs 232M
Accomplices 133 vs 0
Kingpin 59 vs 12
lv 54 mini can beat a lv 250 players from a top 30 team now.

[Winnson]

It's all about the accomplices, and when it's close the opponent's combined ATT and DEF come into play.

But we don't get to see both those stats, not even after a hit.

That ain't right.

[Winnson]

How long will it take Gree to fix their Y2K Maximum ATT reached coding problem do you think?

[Winnson]

Max it at quadrillions, or PETAs next time please. What is this amateur hour?