[Official Feedback] Epic Boss Meets Hero Equip

[Lys]

31 Dec 2014 Edit

Thus far, XP seems lower. HP seems a bit lower the exact ****ing same... seriously?! For those who think their Epic Boss attack boosts are not all calculated, please don't forget that we've had temporary bonuses and GREE doesn't seem to remove it from your listing, even after they have expired.

Damage is as follows

FREE HIT = ~66.6% of Gold Hit
GOLD HIT = (Hero Equip Power + Hero Strength/2) * Boost
GEM HIT = 4x Gold Hit

End Edit

It sucks worse than any Dyson vacuum cleaner I've ever seen, and those things got some major sucking power to them.

I'll openly admit I've more than overspent during my time playing this game. Somewhere in the vicinity of probably $4,000 lifetime spent on my account. So, I could easily tackle the Epic Bosses? I PAID for that to happen. If my damage boost % to the Epic Boss (One of which was paid for via quite a hefty amount of gems one event, I might add) is useless, because I'm doing so little damage now that a +19% doesn't do crap anymore... why?

You've completely invalidated all of that above spending. My account might as well be a newbie's for all that it matters, as I'm already struggling through the Epic Boss event now at the late 30s and early 40s... I didn't spend all of my money so that I could have a hard time of the game, I was paying to win, as is the focus of pay to win app games. If you think otherwise, open your eyes.

Thanks for killing the game. I've been quite vocal in my past criticism, but I hadn't put it down yet. Well, now I am. This was the final straw, and for ****s and giggles, I'm also going to leave another 1 star review on this app. Because, let's face it, you all are worse than EA when it comes to handling games. This is the worst fumbling of something I've ever seen, and not even Tadaaah's experience on FF 14 Rebirth is going to save your pathetic arses from this bungling.

Thanks for telling me my $$$ don't matter at all, and that I've wasted all of this time playing this game. Checking out for the final time, because you're not even worth the effort it takes to type this out anymore.

- Lys

Below are additions from the conversation that are pretty bloody important.


Just checked my notes....even back in April i was capable to kill a lv 100 with 8 gold hits....now its 13

From a player I know in regards to the HP changes made to the EB... A heavy gemming player. This is too far of an increase.


The changes to Epic Boss are meant as a way to bring something new to the game and reengage players in this event without having to replace it with a new event type. Our active players with giant armies who have been playing the game for a long time will have hero items powerful enough to compete, if not dominate, in the event as they always have. While we have chosen our oldest single event to get this revamp player's armies are in no way devalued as they still play a major part in Raid Boss and Conquest events.

Derez, it would be great if you came to this forum and explain why this statement you made is not true.

Also, please explain in detail how this has not devalued our accounts.

Answer, please. This event is back to how it was when I was a free player, not a gemmer.


To the developers

Whilst we appreciate the need to continually move events forward in line with the average growth on accounts, it seems, yet again, that the calculations used for the EB may have been over the top. When our top and oldest accounts have struggled to actually finish this quest to 100 kills, there is very little hope for the rest of the guild who do not have the benefit of the health regeneration on our oldest accounts.

Based on your new format of EB, the changes and percentage increased compared to old format EB was close to 1500% increase. How does that make any sense for such a huge jump in difficulty for EB from the new and old. We can understand there is a need to increase, however the main issue that went wrong was how much it was increased, 1500% is just totally ridiculous, unfair and unreasonable at all, it totally does not make any common and reasonable sense. On top of that, the rewards given for the increase are not even close to comparable too, the rewards really lack the attractiveness for players to do the event. So please readjust the EB to make it reasonable for all the KA players and also please put in some focus on the rewards to match up the level of difficult better.

Our choice therefore seems to be.. Spend gems to complete or simply not bother wasting the time involved in the quest.

Given the new strategy during war that you are pursuing, and the requirement for 1500 plus items of headwear, footwear and artifacts.. Would it not make more sense to offer some of these items, even low stats ones during the event to make it more appealing to users, in which case they may consider using gems, instead of one item of not great strength at the end of heroic quest.

After last months example of a 'collect 21 items' quest, it is unlikely many people will even attempt the master slayer quest this cycle.. Again, another source of lost gems.

Also.. As you will notice the figures on the LB for the normal box quest are still exceedingly low.. Again.. Last cycle, so many of us spent far too many gems, to not even be able to finish the quest.. We are still individually awaiting a response from yourselves on this.. Our tickets were closed after they were passed to specialists for replies, which have to date been not forthcoming.

We welcome your attempts to keep our attention in the game. Perhaps it is time to reevaluate the players and input you receive from your beta testers.. Possibly they are not the correct demographic of players to give you accurate feedback.

Hoping these comments are helpful and explain our concern..

Rising Phoenix

P.S: we also emailed a copy of the letter to Gree too.

Nicely sums up things in an eloquent manner.


Dear Gree,

I am writing this letter on behalf of the Kingdom Age Community. The intention is to make you aware of our disgust regarding the changes to the Epic Boss. As you are well aware, many here in guild have spent obscene amounts of money as well as thousands of hours of our time to make some of the most competitive accounts in the game. The new format Gree has adopted to run its Epic boss event has erased the time, effort and money many of KAs top players have put forth. Players who were able to take down a level 100 last EB with a couple of free hits, now find themselves using 6 or 7 free hits to take down a level 66 boss. This new format is ridiculous and clearly illustrates the disconnect between Gree and its players. This event gave players a chance to watch their toons grow and move further and further through the event without having to spend and spend.

On a whim, Gree has once again given players a reason to contemplate retiring from this game. This change just like the numerous other changes as of late was not asked for nor was it needed. If the intention of the company is to ruin and or end this game than just pull the plug already. The current actions and or course you are taking has already hit your company where it hurts, forcing those who already spend to constantly increase their investment will only cause burnout and loss of revenue for your company.

The new war format has run a couple of cycles now and people are getting used to it and changing their strategy for build their accounts accordingly. However this change has rendered low level toons useless and set higher level toons back to nearly zero. We are requesting that the previous format for Epic Boss be reinstated. Changing so many characteristics of the game is not fair to those who have invested so much.

Below you will find a list (which is growing every minute) of guilds who support this letter and its purpose.

Sincerely,


Forum United Nation
Forum United Nation 2
Original Dutch Bitterball
Raiding Barbarian Nation
Royal FUA Knights
The Abusement Park
Warlord
Royal Knights
Fire Metal Blood
Samurai Blood
Samurai Blood USA
Samurai Blood 2.0
Samurai Blood 4.0
SB King Queens Jokers
Samurai Blood 3
Royal Knights Paladins
Minions of Mayhem
Royal KG Knights
Royal Knight XW
The Raiding Barbarians
Dragon Warriors
Muff Marauders
Rose Warriors
Back to the Future
The Phoenix Knights
Gods of Valhalla
Red Dawn Dragons
Hero Quest
The Sailing Alpacas

I spy... the Top 3 guilds. And the Top 10. And most of the Top 25... are there even any gemmers left outside of these groups?


I do understand, and I take much of the responsibility here for not communicating with you guys on that thread. The Development Team IS aware of the feedback, particularly that from the top guilds. I will continue to stress the feedback to them.

So, they're aware, but choosing not to comment on the matter at this time, it seems. Then again... there is no right answer or anything they could say that wouldn't lead to them getting bit in the ass in some manner, I suppose.

[Sim]

Agreed this is the biggest change up on Gree's part yet. Put it back the way it was.

[Clementine]

Please leave your feedback here for the new format of Epic Boss, which now utilizes the new Hero Equip.

There currently is a known issue effecting EB, which is detailed here (http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?102825).

[truthteller]

@ Clementine, I copied this from a post I did on another thread, since this is the official one

it was told by Derez or another of the dev that those players that dominated the event would still be able to dominate the EB event after the changes were implemented, so please..........

Can someone at GREEd please clarify how the new EB twist is "the same" for those players that dominated the event before the change??

I have a guild member that use to finish boss 100 with 1 free hit..............he is now only at boss 55 and already using 6 hits..................
I myself took 3 free hits for boss 100........and now I am only at boss 20 using 2 hits

How is that "the same" for players that dominated the event??????????

Update on EB..........
at boss 34 taking 4 free hits doing 400+ damage per hit..........and it seems that boss 100 will have about 7,500 HP............so that does not look like I am "dominating" the event as stated by Gree employees

[bird1992]

These is just to much of a change to fast.. I understand game needs change but not this much at once Top players Not saying I'm one But as much money and endless hours lots have put into this game to get there toon's built up to just dropped back this far Now will have spend that all over in crafting to keep up stats in this new system is bad

[Lys]

These is just to much of a change to fast.. I understand game needs change but not this much at once Top players Not saying I'm one But as much money and endless hours lots have put into this game to get there toon's built up to just dropped back this far Now will have spend that all over in crafting to keep up stats in this new system is bad

What's fun is that I was close to 1 hitting lv 100 bosses for free (I could with gold, but not for free yet) and I have gotten the artifacts from the raid boss, best weapon and armor available in game, and I've crafted the best boots and helm available in the workshop... and I'm already taking 4 hits per boss now in the late 30s or so.

This is a bloody sham, and is actually worse than the first time I gemmed an EB to completion... I was making more progress then, and still spent almost 8,000 gems in the end. No way am I completing this one.

[B1RD]

Absolute horrendous effort by GREEd in an effort to...what? Level the playing field? Drum up new players to come to the game? Make loyal customers stay playing and albeit spending as much as some do and have?

Once again, GREEd, keep spending no time and effort to screw things up rather than be respectable and spend the correct amount of time to do things right.

Oh yes, I'm quite sure this will make so many more come to this game and make so many loyal players stay in it as well. (Please read that as sarcasm as I'm quite sure you may not get it)

[Vclone]

I understand that the game had to change. I get the boxes and crafting. But, if you are going to make my 2 years of atk increases irrelevant, you should at least allow a skill reset.

The EB now uses the skill points and Hero Equipment in a way that none of us planned. We are not equipped or prepared for this. We have worked to increase our stats in other ways to make the EB possible, like Lys did. Now you ask us to change horses, but you don't allow us to bring our shiny and polished saddle and reins.

The change to the EB is another short sighted action that is killing my interest in the game.

[Uberfauker]

The changes to Epic Boss are meant as a way to bring something new to the game and reengage players in this event without having to replace it with a new event type. Our active players with giant armies who have been playing the game for a long time will have hero items powerful enough to compete, if not dominate, in the event as they always have. While we have chosen our oldest single event to get this revamp player's armies are in no way devalued as they still play a major part in Raid Boss and Conquest events.

Derez, it would be great if you came to this forum and explain why this statement you made is not true.

Also, please explain in detail how this has not devalued our accounts.

[E-I]

This EB event is poop. It sucks, and is just further proof of how out of touch Gree is with its player base.

[achilles12]

if you could kill with one free hit or 2 hits now will take 17 to 20 gold hits units are not even being use at all this is just to crazy

[Cloud22]

I'm not sure why gree did not believe us when we told them this was a horrible idea. Only reason I see is for more money, plain and simple. L100 boss has bout 10k health now. I was beating L100 bosses in 2 free hits, now takes 20 with this new damage. As expected this is very disappointing, and can only hope Gree see there mistake and change it back to the way it was!!

[FrostedHate]

I like so many others here have spent large amounts of my hard earned money to build my player. It was nice having an event where I didn't have to spend money because I was strong enough to complete it with gold and free hits. I had such high hopes after the last couple of epic bosses having battle refills added in and such. That was a positive change. With this boss all of the positives have been erased. I won't be spending gems to finish this. This latest change for the worse by devs further highlights how out of touch you are with your player base. You ponder why people are leaving and think that new features are needed and that will make it better. In reality if you were to ensure that existing events worked the way they are supposed to and provided open, timely, and accurate information all the time this game would be so much healthier. As it is you are driving it into the ground since you don't listen to what the players want because you think you know better. We, the players tell you all the time what we want and you ignore it.


*rant over*

[Vclone]

I'm not sure why gree did not believe us when we told them this was a horrible idea. Only reason I see is for more money, plain and simple. L100 boss has bout 10k health now. I was beating L100 bosses in 2 free hits, now takes 20 with this new damage. As expected this is very disappointing, and can only hope Gree see there mistake and change it back to the way it was!!

Or change it in a way that makes sense. Those of us who have been playing for a long time should not have to start over.

[Jomama1]

And the message to new players is "don't gem as gree will change the game and make your investment useless".

So what possible good purpose could this serve?

You punish your big spenders and scare the new players.

Just shut the game down if you want to kill it. Don't screw with us like this....

[Jomama1]

And I love the dominate comment earlier Derez. Please explain how the top players can dominate. You cant because its total BS...

[Arahant]

I am on the same boat with Lys, spent about 10-12K$ on the game, was killing the L100 EB with single free hits now I have to use 3 gold hits to kill the L37 EB, for shame...

I have been defending this game and even made the mistake of bringing few of my friends into the game and turned them into KA addicts like myself.

Thanks for telling me that $$$ I spent on your game doesn't mean Sh1t.

Are you guys now proud of yourself, that you are making us leave the game? Your cash cows are about to shut the door on your face, some did and some are on the way... Put your act together and put back the EB to its former format, your new system dynamics is killing your game.

We enjoy 3 things in this game:
1 - War - do not mess with the calculation dynamics anymore, more variables mean more likelihood of occurrence of problems (basic math rule)
2 - RB - do not even think about touching the calculation dynamics here, its perfect the way it is.
3- EB - YOU KILLED THIS EVENT WITH YOUR NEW CALCULATION, REVERT BACK TO YOUR PREVIOUS MODEL SO WE CAN ONCE MORE START ENJOYING THIS GAME.

I HOPE THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR, WE HATE YOUR NEW EB SYSTEM, BE A GOOD VENDOR AND LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS WAY.

[Jomama1]

And one more thing - why was the XP for bosses raised so high? Is this intentional???

[Uberfauker]

The changes to Epic Boss are meant as a way to bring something new to the game and reengage players in this event without having to replace it with a new event type. Our active players with giant armies who have been playing the game for a long time will have hero items powerful enough to compete, if not dominate, in the event as they always have. While we have chosen our oldest single event to get this revamp player's armies are in no way devalued as they still play a major part in Raid Boss and Conquest events.

Derez, it would be great if you came to this forum and explain why this statement you made is not true.

Also, please explain in detail how this has not devalued our accounts.

**bumping this post...reason: I need an answer, I pay your salary, I can stop paying your salary and I'm pissed.**

[Lys]

Derez, it would be great if you came to this forum and explain why this statement you made is not true.

Also, please explain in detail how this has not devalued our accounts.

**bumping this post...reason: I need an answer, I pay your salary, I can stop paying your salary and I'm pissed.**

I've edited the original post for ya, Uber.

[Jerusalem]

Like many here, I've spent thousands on this game, spent time in all three top guilds, developed a L187 account with attack and defense over 3 billion, and am just utterly astounded by the gall Gree has to change the basic fundamentals of the game midstream with little advance notice. I've lost the heart to continue playing. At the behest of friends, I've started another game by a different developer and found it much more enjoyable - and CHEAPER.

I voice my support for every post that has come before this one, and, if the EB event is not reverted to its previous format, I will have no regrets in deleting this game forever. On further thought, I know I'll do it regardless of what Gree does. This game has gone to the toilet, and I'd never recommend a game by Gree to anyone.

[Gendur]

Bring back the old style EB. The new EB should be renamed and can be added as a new event type, it is 100x better than any of the other brain-dead individual/guild quests (kill a 1000 monsters ad infinitum..). The hate here is because you replaced it with one of the most loved events in the game.

[FeelSoHigh]

Thank you Gree, all these changes are awesome! And as it's the time of the year of presents and wishes, i'd like to wish you a good multiple sclerosis. to the whole team, from the depth of my heart.
This will bring you long term pain and paralysis.

Merry Xmas!

[Jordette]

Great job on changing EB gree!!!! Realy congrats!!!!!
I'm just gonna spend my few 1000 gems i have and after those you guys can Kiss my ...
What is gonna be next???
A RB nobody can ever finish?????
Thank you again, from this day i become a gem free player!

[syKosis]

Went from 4 free hits @ Lvl 100 to 6 gold hits @ Lvl 60. How is this a balanced, fair update?

[The red Baron]

fair means nobody can finish, all are pissed.
In the past some (me too) were happy with EB others not.
Now all are equal.
The only good thing is that the rewards are usless too.
Only legendary would be fine but far away from reach now.

By the way i have high stats in all the new improtant charachteristics and they does not help at all
unit attack 1.1 billion, nothing special but was good enough in the past
Equip 150k, should be high
Hero 9053 should be high

[KillaDon]

So the answer is YES the XP is MUCH HIGHER. Level 53 boss gives 530XP and it maxes out at 1,010 XP for every level 100 you kill an it's taking 3 gold hits at 53 boss for me

[truthteller]

So the answer is YES the XP is MUCH HIGHER. Level 53 boss gives 530XP and it maxes out at 1,010 XP for every level 100 you kill an it's taking 3 gold hits at 53 boss for me

it is very sad how GREEd has killed one of the best event they ever came up with
at least 20 in my factions used (and I do mean used to, because now they will not) to spend around 400 to 500 gems each to finish EB, but now with the high XP and high HP with reduced damage per hit..........they are all stopping and only doing kills for the daily goal

boss 57 has 3,300 HP or so and gives 580 XP

[Lara4578]

To the developers

Whilst we appreciate the need to continually move events forward in line with the average growth on accounts, it seems, yet again, that the calculations used for the EB may have been over the top. When our top and oldest accounts have struggled to actually finish this quest to 100 kills, there is very little hope for the rest of the guild who do not have the benefit of the health regeneration on our oldest accounts.

Based on your new format of EB, the changes and percentage increased compared to old format EB was close to 1500% increase. How does that make any sense for such a huge jump in difficulty for EB from the new and old. We can understand there is a need to increase, however the main issue that went wrong was how much it was increased, 1500% is just totally ridiculous, unfair and unreasonable at all, it totally does not make any common and reasonable sense. On top of that, the rewards given for the increase are not even close to comparable too, the rewards really lack the attractiveness for players to do the event. So please readjust the EB to make it reasonable for all the KA players and also please put in some focus on the rewards to match up the level of difficult better.

Our choice therefore seems to be.. Spend gems to complete or simply not bother wasting the time involved in the quest.

Given the new strategy during war that you are pursuing, and the requirement for 1500 plus items of headwear, footwear and artifacts.. Would it not make more sense to offer some of these items, even low stats ones during the event to make it more appealing to users, in which case they may consider using gems, instead of one item of not great strength at the end of heroic quest.

After last months example of a 'collect 21 items' quest, it is unlikely many people will even attempt the master slayer quest this cycle.. Again, another source of lost gems.

Also.. As you will notice the figures on the LB for the normal box quest are still exceedingly low.. Again.. Last cycle, so many of us spent far too many gems, to not even be able to finish the quest.. We are still individually awaiting a response from yourselves on this.. Our tickets were closed after they were passed to specialists for replies, which have to date been not forthcoming.

We welcome your attempts to keep our attention in the game. Perhaps it is time to reevaluate the players and input you receive from your beta testers.. Possibly they are not the correct demographic of players to give you accurate feedback.

Hoping these comments are helpful and explain our concern..

Rising Phoenix

P.S: we also emailed a copy of the letter to Gree too.

[Cloud22]

I think we all would really like to hear Gree input on this matter. The feedback is pretty clear with a lot of good points made, that no one is enjoying this new EB damage. To many mistakes made here with this EB, with a change that should not have been done in the first place. Will there be any hope of it going back to the old damage next EB or change it to make it more fair for the gem spenders and players that have spent a lot of time on there stats? Or is this the permanent change?

[FrenchyQ]

As this EB seams to be increadably hard to finish I really hope and earg Gree to give better rewards then they are currently for completing EB legendary and combo..
As this was posible for the war top 10 reward, this must surly be possible..

This would give players at least give the drive and some satisfaction in completing this horrible event.

Furthermore, increasing equipment to 1500 each with the latest update did not increase anything on my stats note do I see any increas in any stats when spending skill points on my hero att or def.

Thank you and good night

[Killing You]

Dear Gree,

I am writing this letter on behalf of the Kingdom Age Community. The intention is to make you aware of our disgust regarding the changes to the Epic Boss. As you are well aware, many here in guild have spent obscene amounts of money as well as thousands of hours of our time to make some of the most competitive accounts in the game. The new format Gree has adopted to run its Epic boss event has erased the time, effort and money many of KAs top players have put forth. Players who were able to take down a level 100 last EB with a couple of free hits, now find themselves using 6 or 7 free hits to take down a level 66 boss. This new format is ridiculous and clearly illustrates the disconnect between Gree and its players. This event gave players a chance to watch their toons grow and move further and further through the event without having to spend and spend.

On a whim, Gree has once again given players a reason to contemplate retiring from this game. This change just like the numerous other changes as of late was not asked for nor was it needed. If the intention of the company is to ruin and or end this game than just pull the plug already. The current actions and or course you are taking has already hit your company where it hurts, forcing those who already spend to constantly increase their investment will only cause burnout and loss of revenue for your company.

The new war format has run a couple of cycles now and people are getting used to it and changing their strategy for build their accounts accordingly. However this change has rendered low level toons useless and set higher level toons back to nearly zero. We are requesting that the previous format for Epic Boss be reinstated. Changing so many characteristics of the game is not fair to those who have invested so much.

Below you will find a list (which is growing every minute) of guilds who support this letter and its purpose.

Sincerely,


Forum United Nation
Forum United Nation 2
Original Dutch Bitterball
Raiding Barbarian Nation
Royal FUA Knights
The Abusement Park
Warlord
Royal Knights
Fire Metal Blood
Samurai Blood
Samurai Blood USA
Samurai Blood 2.0
Samurai Blood 4.0
SB King Queens Jokers
Samurai Blood 3
Royal Knights Paladins
Minions of Mayhem
Royal KG Knights
Royal Knight XW
The Raiding Barbarians
Dragon Warriors
Muff Marauders
Rose Warriors
Back to the Future
The Phoenix Knights
Gods of Valhalla
Red Dawn Dragons
Hero Quest
The Sailing Alpacas

[Shadows]

**bumping this post...reason: I need an answer, I pay your salary, I can stop paying your salary and I'm pissed.**

dude, if you're single-handedly paying his salary, I'm thinking you may be spending waayyyy too much each month on gems... ;-)

[Tojo]

I totally agree with killing you. I am not a gemmer. Maybe $500 a year. Sale only :-). I'm not a big gun but support the fact that these players have made this game. We chase them. They spend their hard earned money to be the best or at least fight for the chance. You tried a change that didn't work, man up say your sorry and correct the problem asap.
I don't know how you compensate these founders of the game after this but management better call their own AMA and soon. Good luck but act fast I need these guys in front of me.

[Vclone]

I wonder if anyone has anything positive to say about this new EB format. No one in the chat rooms are saying anything positive or even playing up the positive side.

It looks like a unanimous thumbs down to me.

[Gendur]

Most players with not spectacular stats are doing better, are able to kill more bosses. But only players with a grievance will look for a place to vent their frustration and anger. My alts will be able to kill close to 50 bosses when before they would barely manage 25-28. My main will struggle to finish 100 where before it only took 2 free hits.

In short gem players are being shafted.

[Jnsolberg]

My level 213 game just got 680 XP for defeating boss 67.
GREE have you lost your minds?
Do you receive a bonus for each level your players gain?

By the way, I had 2 games that could kill a level 100 in 3 free hits last time. I'm up to 7 gold hits in the low 70s now. Maybe I can make it to 100, but that's it. I'm not going to waste that much time and gems on this terrible event.

Plus the rewards are terrible. So far I don't have one unit that makes my army. The materials crates aren't too bad since we get a lot of them and maybe we can craft some hero equipment, but the units in the chests don't help at all.

I'm going to have to rethink if I even want to do EB anymore.

[Mattman@WLD]

REPOST TO THIS THREAD: Are you Kidding me... I have dropped thousands of dollars building up my ID to be very strong. Now you have "rebalanced" the event... You have destroyed all advantages... just wiped it away. My EB attack is almost the same as other players who play for free... And worse, EB is beyond difficult. It cannot be completed without thousands of GEMs. We all have the same LTQ swords and equipment AND there is nothing to craft beyond a pair of boots and a helmet. GREE you say that if you had a dominant account you can still dominate. YOU ONCE AGAIN LIED TO THE KA COMMUNITY. Why should we believe anything you tell us. This is all about generating more gems spending plain and simple!!!

[Mattman@WLD]

INSULT TO INJURY: BOSS XP IS INSANE
approximate Boss XP = Boss Lvl *10

Lvl 1-9 450 xp
lvl 10-19 1,450 xp
lvl 20-29 2,450 xp
lvl 30-39 3,450 xp
lvl 40-49 4,450 xp
lvl 50-59 5,450 xp
lvl 60-69 6,450 xp
lvl 70-79 7,450 xp (more than 1 lvl of xp)
lvl 80-89 8,450 xp
lvl 90-99 9,450 xp
lvl 100 1,020 xp
35x 100 35,700 xp (you need to kill 35 bosses to fulfill legendary).

ARE YOU NUTS!!!!!!!!!! that is 10 gained lvls for 4% conquest points bonus.

[Mattman@WLD]

YOU HAVE BROKEN TRUST WITH THIS COMMUNITY!!!!! It is funny, but this seems clearly set up for a class-action lawsuit. You have baited us with the promise of great prizes that allow us to dominate in this game. Then you devalue those prizes and totally change the game after the fact (bait and switch is illegal). Vegas has a gamming commission. Wonder if for-pay games need such oversight. Might have to send a letter to my US Senator and share what GREE has done to us. In the interim, I got great satisfaction in my discussions with Apple Care. Only had to mention a similar line of thought and tell them I was highly dissatisfied... They quickly found a way to return some of what I put into this game...

[Jomama1]

Gree,

You need people to spend gems to pay for this game. When you make the gemmers equal to the non gemmers you are telling all not to spend gems. This is not an advanced concept Really.

[Jerusalem]

Just checking in to see if any progress has been made, given that I refuse to log in to KA at this point, but I see nothing has changed... :(

[Derez]

Sorry that we have not gotten back to you all sooner. As many of you know there were some issue this week with the update to 3.1, which may have also lead to some of you running into issues with the new Epic Boss and your hero items. We have been focused on getting those issues resolved as well as working on new content for the holidays.

I know the Waffle King is working on a formal post about the update and changes to the game but I did want to give you all an additional tip for the event:

Auto Equip will always give you the most powerful items in your inventory based off of their combined ATK+DEF. While this is great for things like PVP where both stats are now taken into consideration, events like Epic Boss where you are only attacking the enemy, manually equipping your items with the best ATK stats in each slot can make a huge difference.

[Lys]

Sorry that we have not gotten back to you all sooner. As many of you know there were some issue this week with the update to 3.1, which may have also lead to some of you running into issues with the new Epic Boss and your hero items. We have been focused on getting those issues resolved as well as working on new content for the holidays.

I know the Waffle King is working on a formal post about the update and changes to the game but I did want to give you all an additional tip for the event:

Auto Equip will always give you the most powerful items in your inventory based off of their combined ATK+DEF. While this is great for things like PVP where both stats are now taken into consideration, events like Epic Boss where you are only attacking the enemy, manually equipping your items with the best ATK stats in each slot can make a huge difference.

This... Derez, you're missing the point here. I mean, I just did your 'tip' here and jumped about 7% Hero Power. Yeah, that's nifty and all, but...

- HP Jump in comparison to damage was too high. See the first post, first quote. Heavy gemmer's view, mind you, so it's pretty jacked up how hard you just bent gemmers over the table here.
- SKILLS ARE DOING NOTHING FOR THIS EVENT. Attack, Hero Attack... there appears to be zero impact. So, yeah. another jacked up point there.
- Your earlier remarked about 'not being able to dominate, but still easily complete the event' is also jacked. I was 2 free hitting bosses, now I'm on Boss 60 and needing 5 gold hits and a freebie already. So, yeah, major issue there.

No offense, Derez, but GREE staff seems amazing at giving replies that aren't anywhere near what we want to see from you all.

[Waffleking]

Hello Kingdom Age players,

Thank you for all your feedback on our changes to the Epic Boss event. We really appreciate all the replies and look into changes based on your concerns.

The changes to this event were never intended to make you feel like we are ignoring all of the hard work that you have put into your armies but rather meant to give value to the new hero items that players have been working hard to craft and collect. Without meaningful uses for those new items, such as major events like Epic Boss, the new features and items would not be creating any value for players. We still value your armies and the hard work you have put into creating them, which is why the majority of our events are still centered around those stats.

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time and money on.

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better. We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.

[KillaDon]

HERO STRENGTH DOES make your damage go up on the Epic Boss. Now I'm NOT saying it's much but I just added 1 to HERO STRENGTH and my damage went up by 1 pt. So yes, this is one part they did say would matter in EB is HERO STRENGTH. It's the RB that is HERO ATTACK and is where EVERYONE will have issues since until then those meaning ATTACK/DEFENSE had no meaning. So on that note, GREE I hope you figure a way to release the skill pt reset option ASAP or before the RB event starts or it will be what your seeing ALL OVER AGAIN and that event I know is y'all's biggest $ maker besides war.

[the_bob]

HERO STRENGTH DOES make your damage go up on the Epic Boss.

Of course it does. I could have told you that.

Take your Total Power attack stat (on the Hero Equip tab) and add it to 1/2 your Hero Strength. Round up or down ads necessary. This is your gold hit value damage.


Total Power Attack + (1/2)Hero Strength = Gold hit
0.67 x Gold hit = free hit
1.5 x Gold hit = gem hit

[truthteller]

Hello Kingdom Age players,

Thank you for all your feedback on our changes to the Epic Boss event. We really appreciate all the replies and look into changes based on your concerns.

The changes to this event were never intended to make you feel like we are ignoring all of the hard work that you have put into your armies but rather meant to give value to the new hero items that players have been working hard to craft and collect. Without meaningful uses for those new items, such as major events like Epic Boss, the new features and items would not be creating any value for players. We still value your armies and the hard work you have put into creating them, which is why the majority of our events are still centered around those stats.

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time and money on.

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better. We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.

Unofficial translation/intetpretation of gree words based on players sentiments
1- we need players to level up, that is why XP is 10* boss level
2- we need to reduce number of player that can finish EB free
3- we need to increase gem spending by players and this EB fullfill that need
4- we soend too much creating crafting and now we need players to spend more gems to recover our investment, that is why we are having 100% gem oriented crafting event

Merry xmas KA, next year will be better (cross my heart and hope to die)

[Jnsolberg]

Hello Kingdom Age players,

Thank you for all your feedback on our changes to the Epic Boss event. We really appreciate all the replies and look into changes based on your concerns.

The changes to this event were never intended to make you feel like we are ignoring all of the hard work that you have put into your armies but rather meant to give value to the new hero items that players have been working hard to craft and collect. Without meaningful uses for those new items, such as major events like Epic Boss, the new features and items would not be creating any value for players. We still value your armies and the hard work you have put into creating them, which is why the majority of our events are still centered around those stats.

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time and money on.

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better. We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.

The problem is that even with the best equipment, it's taking many gold hits to kill these bosses. My games have the best hero equipment you can craft, and it just took me 9 gold hits for boss 87. That boss also gave me @ 900 xp. NINE HUNDRED XP.....that's insane.
I have multiple games, three of which are levels 209-213, so I suppose I'll go to 100 with them. I'm going to have to stop at boss 73 on the other game, now level 154.

By the way, last EB I could kill the level 100 bosses with free hits. 3, 3, 4 and 6 hits respectively.

The concept of using Hero strength is not too bad, but since we all already have the best equipment, and there is no way to improve on the equipment, the boss has way too much health, and gives way too much experience.

Reduce the xp by 90%, and at least level the Boss' health out at maybe 5000 instead of 10,250, and we might have a viable event. Not this time. I just hope that we don't have a mass retirement for the game over this, like we did after the first "new stat" war.

[E-I]

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better.

Don't count on our support. When you blatantly ignore customer feedback and put in ridiculous changes that are almost universally hated, there isn't much left for us to support.

[Perfuzzie]

Hello Kingdom Age players,

Thank you for all your feedback on our changes to the Epic Boss event. We really appreciate all the replies and look into changes based on your concerns.

The changes to this event were never intended to make you feel like we are ignoring all of the hard work that you have put into your armies but rather meant to give value to the new hero items that players have been working hard to craft and collect. Without meaningful uses for those new items, such as major events like Epic Boss, the new features and items would not be creating any value for players. We still value your armies and the hard work you have put into creating them, which is why the majority of our events are still centered around those stats.

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time and money on.

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better. We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.



Translation ... Suck it up suckers , go with the flow and bring more money in for our christmas bonuses . FY GREE

[Vclone]

Hello Kingdom Age players,

Thank you for all your feedback on our changes to the Epic Boss event. We really appreciate all the replies and look into changes based on your concerns.

The changes to this event were never intended to make you feel like we are ignoring all of the hard work that you have put into your armies but rather meant to give value to the new hero items that players have been working hard to craft and collect. Without meaningful uses for those new items, such as major events like Epic Boss, the new features and items would not be creating any value for players. We still value your armies and the hard work you have put into creating them, which is why the majority of our events are still centered around those stats.

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time and money on.

We hope that you as the community will continue to support us and help us make this game better. We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.

So, you are basically saying that you hear us, but you don't really care. This is the future of KA and live with it or don't play. I also hear that you may change it in the future, but it is unlikely and it will be filled with other bugs.

The proof is in what the developers do. I respect that KA had to change and that you will not modify an event mid-stream, but it must be tuned going forward. This one was an Epic Fail (sorry to use a cliche here) and a horrible event. Listen to your customers or watch us walk away.

[Mattman@WLD]

GREE!

I am calling Bull$4$%4

Ok... I will humor your idiotic notion that you want to value crafting and make this an exciting element of the game (dumb idea but will continue down this path for argument sake)... OK so lets add up all the best equipment we can craft:

Shaman Hood 66 attack
Wizard Rob 106 attack
Soldier Boots 86 attack
Foliage Falchion 200 attack
Rusted Gauntlets 44 attack x2

total attack 546

This equates to about 600 EB attack using gold (depends on your heroic Skill points but I am using an average).

***THAT IS 17 GOLD HITS on a lvl 100 boss (~10,200 health)*** REALLY!!!!!!!!!

Now lets talk about Heroic Equipment. You have not offered decent weapons or armor prizes in quite some time. And the ones you have offered most of us have (shadow sword or Infinity Sword) and Dark Stone Armor (tangent: why they heck is 1000 kills in war a weak and terrible weapon or armor - these should have been better than the best that is out there not significantly weaker). So we are all about the same in attack (AND YOU KNOW THIS). So the one item that you tightly control (Heroic equipment) is now the center of this new event. I will once again call it for what it is... A PLOY TO BILK US FOR MORE MONEY, plain and simple. We are tired of the lies and the "marketing". I would at least respect an honest answer. what you present is Bull$4$%4

[Alexius]

Yawn.......I said eff this and decided not to do it. Former heavy gemmer, now a spectator. Stop tweaking(ruining) the fun events by giving out crappier prizes that are harder to obtain regardless of your investment level. Kudos on the player swap feature. It's about 1.5 years overdue.

[The red Baron]

This is a joke i dont understand.
I cannot rmember that we the comunity have been asked before doing very stupid things.
Even if we are asked after, GREE does not listen at all.

A tip about auto equip, yes instead of 13 hits you may need only 12 hits to kill a boss, very helpfull.
But most did know before.
And never put auto equip on as it does not equip the best balance alltimes, during war i go new but worse items which were eqipped.

[Hockeydoc]

To summarize, the changes to EB have increased time and gems to complete, or try to complete, EB; XP has increased so people are leveling faster; prizes aren't as good; and more players have quit trying EB, or even the game. Sounds like business as usual at GREE. :mad:

[Jomama1]

Gree,


Here are some key suggestions

- Do not change raid boss - it is finally to a place where top 25/50 guilds can finish. It still requires gems and a lot of planning for them. Let them enjoy it and don't compound the issues.

-keep big picture perspective- we know you need to make money - but the big spenders who could do epic boss free were still spending tons of gems during war. Chasing them away is penny wise but pound foolish.

-have a fix in place by next epic boss. I have convinced most to give it one more chance.

-I understand wanting to incorporate the new stuff. I would suggest adding a significant factor for army attack to your formula, maybe 100 points per 100M attack. You still may need to crank the difficulty down a bit. When players go from 1-2 free hits for a level 100 boss to 16-20 gold hits they are understandably quite upset.

-lower the xp by a factor of ten. This is absurd as is.

I think these are all reasonable suggestions that fit within your criteria. But know that all are watching closely.

[Mattman@WLD]

Thank you Jomomma! Great suggestions (especially the Raid Boss point)

I will add one more to the Epic Boss:

Since GREE is now stating they WILL NOT move EB back to the old format, then I would suggest you bring back UNIT Totals into the equation. Here is how it could be done:

- Currently I have Heroic Equipment that gives 620 attack points
- My Gold hit is 699
- My attack is 1.45B. If you multiply this by 0.00000015, you would get ~217 points.
- If you add this my new gold hit would be ~916 (699+217=916).

This would take into account all the hard word people have previously put into the building up a strong account. But it would still highly value the Heroic element in the equation (for me it would be a 75/25% split).

I would suggest a much higher factor but recognize you would have disregarded the idea all together if the total went over 1,000 hit points for each gold hit.

[Jomama1]

Agree Mattman.

We are on the same wavelength. I suggested 100 points per 100M attack and you suggested 15. I think the higher number may be needed to calm folks down (especially if that was free hit adder). With a 10K level 100 boss, Gree needs to get it a bit closer to what folks were used to. In fact it should be higher. A 2B stat player should be able to get it at least back to 4-5 free hits if he has good equipment. He was doing 2-3 before.

[Mattman@WLD]

Agree Mattman.

We are on the same wavelength. I suggested 100 points per 100M attack and you suggested 15. I think the higher number may be needed to calm folks down (especially if that was free hit adder). With a 10K level 100 boss, Gree needs to get it a bit closer to what folks were used to. In fact it should be higher. A 2B stat player should be able to get it at least back to 4-5 free hits if he has good equipment. He was doing 2-3 before.

Sorry about that... I somehow missed your point the first time through. Cheers mate!

[Arahant]

With that said, we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive. Many of our dedicated long time players have maxed out in one way or another and we want to offer opportunities for all players to continue to grow and progress in Kingdom Age. We know this is a large change to one of our longest running events and that change can be difficult, but we hope you can understand why some of these changes are necessary to extend the longevity of the game.

We understand that the community has felt ignored and unimportant in the past and we are working to change that going forward. We will continue to engage with the community to modify and update events so that you, the players, can still enjoy and be challenged by our live events. Your feedback will be taken into heavy consideration for tuning the Epic Boss event going forward as it would not be fare to reactively make changes to the current event which players have already spent time

Basically what you are saying, screw your concerns its our way or the highway! Unless you revert back the EP to previous state you are going to loose us and loose us for good.

We dont care about the idiotic Crafting feature; it has "0" effect, has absolutely no added value and ridiculously boring. You can not change the dynamics of the best piece of this game (of course this is EB), just to re-emphasize the added value of your new feature (the ridiculous Crafting crap).

BRING BACK THE EB TO ITS PREVIOUS STATE OR WE ARE WALKING AWAY

[Scubdog]

You have lost the support of the players who spend money on this game. The death spiral began not long ago and has now reached the tipping point. Potential new players will read the App Store comments and know. Old players will not invite their friends and family or start over or spend another dime on this craptastic mess. Players who have been loyal for years are throwing up their hands and walking away from the game. Mass Exodus and Gree posts junk like this response? Merry Christamas Gree and congratulations on killing off another popular game.

[Jerusalem]

For the past two weeks, I've been enjoying another game that doesn't have bugs or change the fundamentals after you've spent thousands of dollars on it. There are better, cheaper alternatives to Gree games. Just a shame that I may have to give up this one.

[Uberfauker]

We look forward to providing you with new experiences and adventures in 2015.

Thank you for giving me something to look forward too. When I use the remaining gems I have (way toooo much) I'm going to delete this app. I'll look for a new game occupy my time (and spend my money on) after the first of the year. I'm really excited about the new experiences and adventures I'll have in 2015.

Marquis, shoot me a PM on Kak about the other game you are playing.

[Uberfauker]

...we also want to be able to challenge our player base in new ways to prevent the game from becoming stale and repetitive.

Forgot to mention, when I read this ^^^^, I think of the Trials. Trials = stale and repetitive

[KillaDon]

Waffleking, Clementine, Derez or Taaadaaah........ I know y'all have somewhat explained the reason for new style of EB BUT can we PLEASE get a answer on why y'all raised the TREMENDOUS amount of XP the bosses are giving now?? I know we all see it's to level us up faster or it's basically the ONLY reason we as a community can come up with but would be nice to hear if this is a mistake or if there is a reason behind it!! Not holding my breath for a answer cause I would probably suffocate myself to death(lol) just poking at y'all, but just seeing by any chance y'all have one!!

[Arahant]

And yet still no response from Gree folks...

Marquis, pls pm me the name of that new game on kakao as well mate. Unless they revert back the EP its previous dynamics not going to buy any gems, just going to use my remaining gems (way tooo much) and delete the app.

Maybe they will wake up when us the top3 cash cows walk away from the game they will realise their HUGE MISTAKE but by then it will be TOO LATE.

[HCobra]

Seriously Gree? Last EB, was 1 gold and 1 free at level 70. I have the best helmet that can be crafted, I have the best boots that can be crafted, as well as the best artifacts, I have earned the best weapon and armour available, I have fully equipped my army with the best weapons, armour, and artifacts gold can buy...this event is 7 times harder at level 70....
Who can say money grab?
Adjustment to take advantage of new crafting abilities...rubbish.
A minor adjustment I could understand..but 7 times the difficulty? Do you really think as customers we are so stupid we can't spot a money grab when we see one? I for one will NOT spend a gem in this event, after the many many gems I have spent to build a strong character.
Gree you have lost you way, you say you listen to you customers....well hear them walking out the door!

[Waffleking]

So, you are basically saying that you hear us, but you don't really care. This is the future of KA and live with it or don't play. I also hear that you may change it in the future, but it is unlikely and it will be filled with other bugs.

The proof is in what the developers do. I respect that KA had to change and that you will not modify an event mid-stream, but it must be tuned going forward. This one was an Epic Fail (sorry to use a cliche here) and a horrible event. Listen to your customers or watch us walk away.

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

[truthteller]

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

If you are really sorry, you can still change the XP drop from boss level x 10, to boss level x 1, and please do not say it cannot be done, because it has been done by you guys in a prior EB when high XP was being given by "error"

[Waffleking]

If you are really sorry, you can still change the XP drop from boss level x 10, to boss level x 1, and please do not say it cannot be done, because it has been done by you guys in a prior EB when high XP was being given by "error"

Hello Truthteller

We will also be dropping the xp you earn from EB as well, that was also something we have heard loud and clear.

[Waffleking]

Waffleking, Clementine, Derez or Taaadaaah........ I know y'all have somewhat explained the reason for new style of EB BUT can we PLEASE get a answer on why y'all raised the TREMENDOUS amount of XP the bosses are giving now?? I know we all see it's to level us up faster or it's basically the ONLY reason we as a community can come up with but would be nice to hear if this is a mistake or if there is a reason behind it!! Not holding my breath for a answer cause I would probably suffocate myself to death(lol) just poking at y'all, but just seeing by any chance y'all have one!!

Hi Killadon

We will be adjusting the xp gained for the next Epic Boss. This was set too high and we will be lowering it back to normal levels.

[Jnsolberg]

Hi Killadon

We will be adjusting the xp gained for the next Epic Boss. This was set too high and we will be lowering it back to normal levels.

Omg! Just when I thought this EB couldn't get any worse!

I just killed level 100 only to find out it gives 2000 experience points. Wtf?

Thats it for me, I only hope the rest of my guild can somehow find 150 more kills for the daily.

[truthteller]

Hello Truthteller

We will also be dropping the xp you earn from EB as well, that was also something we have heard loud and clear.

you can drop the XP on this current EB, if you wanted too...and do not say is too late or unfair for others that have work on EB, because 99% of players have stop killing EB because of the HIGH XP drop

[truthteller]

Hi Killadon

We will be adjusting the xp gained for the next Epic Boss. This was set too high and we will be lowering it back to normal levels.

why you refuse to lower it for what is left of this current EB? it has been done in the past, why not now???

Still 25 hours left on EB, if you drop the XP, you will see ALOT of players, killing bosses and even spending some gems to complete the legendary part

you are just confirming to ALL players that the XP was done on purpose with the SOLE goal of making every players level up as much as possible

you know, Appreciation month was very crappy for every player, but still compare to how you are treating us know, for most of us, it is feeling that you were really appreciating us back in October

[syKosis]

why you refuse to lower it for what is left of this current EB? it has been done in the past, why not now???

Still 25 hours left on EB, if you drop the XP, you will see ALOT of players, killing bosses and even spending some gems to complete the legendary part


This...

I would. I stopped at legendary 5/10 yesterday because of the massive amounts of experience and stupidly high HP. If Gree dropped that experience to 10% of what it is and the HP by half, I would finish the last 5 levels.

[Arahant]

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

If you are going to keep this new format of EB, here is what you need to do:
1 - Health of the L100 boss shouldn't exceed 2000, this is the max
2 - XP should be the same as previous EB
3 - Crafting should more realistic less Utopic. Charge us gold and honour (no gems for this), for us to get the missing ingredients.
4 - Fix your Legendary bug. People who are doing legendary, find that some of the L100s are resetted back to 0 after couple of hours.
5 - L100 prize should be a unit with Permanent Boost
6 - Legendary prize should be a unit with Permanent Boost
7 - Take the box event out of the Slayer equation, we are not in a casino, when I wanna go there I do that in Monaco not in KA.

LETS HOPE THAT ONCE AGAIN THIS WILL NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS.

[Vclone]

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

Thank you, Waffleking. I appreciate your apology and your efforts to make the EB less of a burden next time. You must understand that we are not accustomed of being heard. Taadaah was great and it seems that you are following up nicely. I look forward to the positive changes and the mod relationship. Cheers!

[Jnsolberg]

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

It's now the next Epic Boss. The experience points are lower, but the bosses seem just as hard. I hope the boss' health caps soon. I just needed 4 gold hits on boss 58. I do know that last time boss @ 72 took me 7 gold hits. My gold damage went from 755 to 788 this time.

[truthteller]

It's now the next Epic Boss. The experience points are lower, but the bosses seem just as hard. I hope the boss' health caps soon. I just needed 4 gold hits on boss 58. I do know that last time boss @ 72 took me 7 gold hits. My gold damage went from 755 to 788 this time.

Boss 34 has about 1,200 HP, HP increase gets higher per level, cause boss 58 as per your post had 3,000 HP, and boss 72 has 5,200 HP

[Jnsolberg]

We will be making adjustments to the Epic Boss. It was too hard and we apologize and next Epic Boss you will see changed to make it easier. I do also want to address the players who think we are just going to keep making changes without taking into account our users feedback. We felt making the changes in the middle of EB would be a bad idea but we will make difficulty changes in the future so that our community is happy with the balance of Epic Boss.

WaffleKing, you LIED to us. You did NOT change EpicBoss to be any easier, the boss' health is exactly the same. This entire thread was devoted to how much we hated the "new" Epic Boss because we went from a few free hits to kill the level 100s to having to take 14-16 gold hits. So, you tell us that you agree it was too hard, and that it would be easier next time. What a load of crap. All you did was lower the experience points gained. Just so you know, lowering the experience points does not make it any easier, it just dosen't penalize us as much.

Happy New Year from Gree...same as the Old Year, lying to us, and ignoring us.

[Jomama1]

I would like a gree response -of this is easier it is only marginally so - I begged players to stay just through this epic boss so they could see that Gree was listening. what the heck.

[Jnsolberg]

I would like a gree response -of this is easier it is only marginally so - I begged players to stay just through this epic boss so they could see that Gree was listening. what the heck.

Jomama, it seemed easier at first because we have better Hero equipment this time, but that might save us 1 hit on a level 100. Not very good. I'm not going to spend 2 hours on each 100, when I used to be able to kill them with a few free hits.

Btw, I'm not going to gem something that I used to be able to do for free, just because Gree-dy wants me to.

[Jomama1]

To be fair, 9K is less than 10.5K for level 100, but this is nowhere near the level of fix promised.

What is wrong with you Gree? As a founder of a top ten guild, I begged players to stay for one more epic boss to let you prove you fixed it. Now I look like am idiot for trusting you. Just kill the game if you are going to run it into the ground.

[Valid or]

How dose hero strength play into the calculations?
My boss hit looks = to my total attack on my gear. Both 714.

Xp is down, boss health if there was a change it's been small, and not very notable.

[hekfhelgh]

I fully support the angrieness of the big player regarding the strength of the EB bosses now.

It is really easy for them to get the hundred bosses if you can kill them with free hits.
I fully support the recalculated algorithms of the bosses now. This give lower players the chance to get a level 50 boss now with lots of free hits or even gold hits. My accounts with level 160 an stats of 100 Mio att had never a chance to kill a level 25 boss with the old modus.

Now I have the chance to kill a level 50 boss within the given 2 hours. I think think make the game much more attractive than before and gives much more players and guild a chance to reach the daily targets.

A real problem is the high Xp for the bosses. This issue must be adjusted.