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andy2
12-09-2014, 04:35 PM
Well unless I am mistaken Gree just changed it to -3% health regen time. No warning, and after ignoring all of the requests asking for information about it. Not to complain... its the bonus I would much rather have considering we don't know what the other one did (nothing)... but had others known I'm sure more would have gone for it.

Hopefully I am not the last to notice. This showing up this way for others?

Edit: this unit http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?101186-Panama-Cycle-Hallowed-Hostilities-fLTQ-NPCs-amp-Walkthroughs

Drakhoan
12-09-2014, 04:53 PM
Well unless I am mistaken Gree just changed it to -3% health regen time. No warning, and after ignoring all of the requests asking for information about it. Not to complain... its the bonus I would much rather have considering we don't know what the other one did (nothing)... but had others known I'm sure more would have gone for it.

Hopefully I am not the last to notice. This showing up this way for others?

It was like that at least before last WD

andy2
12-09-2014, 05:00 PM
It was like that at least before last WD

maybe I am actually late to the table here, but it definitely wasn't health regen last wd for me as i check those bonuses before and after every war.

Bobar
12-09-2014, 05:02 PM
is it?
i just think this is useless crap i spent to much for...
probably useless to ask. BUT: Clementine (as tadaahh went to "social media") what happend to this bonus?

Merc_mw
12-09-2014, 06:02 PM
Wasn't it a temp +3 health regen that they changed it to.

TheDanimal
12-09-2014, 06:30 PM
forget that - how about the old +5 energy regen plane... what was that one again?

andy2
12-09-2014, 06:33 PM
Wasn't it a temp +3 health regen that they changed it to.

It was not temp, it was a prestige wrapper on a fltq. This fltq: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?101186-Panama-Cycle-Hallowed-Hostilities-fLTQ-NPCs-amp-Walkthroughs

If you look at what the reward was advertised as, and now look at the unit the bonus has suddenly chanted without warning... again for the better... but many people in my chats are confirming this just happened for them as well.

TheDanimal
12-09-2014, 06:46 PM
It was not temp, it was a prestige wrapper on a fltq. This fltq: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?101186-Panama-Cycle-Hallowed-Hostilities-fLTQ-NPCs-amp-Walkthroughs

If you look at what the reward was advertised as, and now look at the unit the bonus has suddenly chanted without warning... again for the better... but many people in my chats are confirming this just happened for them as well.

I don't like the whole changing things without warning... the past is shaded with too many bad experiences not to wonder if this has happened with other units, or will happen in the future.
Glad for the change though - more beneficial. Just wish they announced it

Bob Belcher
12-09-2014, 07:01 PM
Already got that once before! Does nothing! Absolutely worthless. Don't waste your energy!
It was +3% health they gave before and never did get answer about how it works! Because it doesn't!!!

fatbodychris
12-09-2014, 07:36 PM
Already got that once before! Does nothing! Absolutely worthless. Don't waste your energy!
It was +3% health they gave before and never did get answer about how it works! Because it doesn't!!!

If you read the thread you would know the +3% health increase was changed to a +3 health regen.

bam bam.
12-09-2014, 08:02 PM
We shouldn't be speculating. Mods should be responding with accurate info stat!. I did send a ticket and was told it was a temp bonus, Which is not what was advertised and it never worked at my end but I was assured it was working on their end...ha

Bob Belcher
12-09-2014, 08:12 PM
Sorry, my bad! But like Bobar said all worthless crap with no explanation. All these rewards are becoming a big joke! All on us!!
Can't wait to play dress up with my avatar! LMAO

TheDanimal
12-09-2014, 08:17 PM
If you read the thread you would know the +3% health increase was changed to a +3 health regen.

changed to -3% health regen time

andy2
12-09-2014, 08:29 PM
We shouldn't be speculating. Mods should be responding with accurate info stat!. I did send a ticket and was told it was a temp bonus, Which is not what was advertised and it never worked at my end but I was assured it was working on their end...ha

Exactly, we noticed that the unit had a confusing bonus from the very start.. asked what it was and gree never bothered to respond. Now after weeks of it not doing anything they decide to just change it without any warning or explanation.. just makes you wonder what else they are doing. Who would know?


changed to -3% health regen time
Exactly what I am seeing as well. Thanks.

Clementine
12-10-2014, 12:04 PM
Our apologies for not updating you sooner about this, we have been so heads down working on the fixes. We determined that this bonus was not working as it should and replaced it with a new, better bonus.

Atego
12-10-2014, 12:38 PM
......and replaced it with a new, better bonus.

I bet after the 5.0 Update next year.

andy2
12-10-2014, 01:38 PM
Our apologies for not updating you sooner about this, we have been so heads down working on the fixes. We determined that this bonus was not working as it should and replaced it with a new, better bonus.

While we are happy that you did, the fact that we asked for a month about this without an answer... and then you change it without telling us and need me to post something about it to recognize it is exactly why we have no trust in Gree and feel you don't care enough to listen to us and communicate with us.

Huj
12-10-2014, 01:55 PM
I preferred the 3% boost to be honest. It looked sexier in my profile boost run down :(

Rustee Nail
12-10-2014, 05:52 PM
this was never a +3 regen. during the event our action brought up and it was verified as a -3% mod. Gree never changed it

andy2
12-10-2014, 05:57 PM
this was never a +3 regen. during the event our action brought up and it was verified as a -3% mod. Gree never changed it

That it false and already confirmed to have been changed by Clementine. It was listed as +3% to Health (not health regen). And changed to -3% health Regen Time. The original bonus never worked, the new one does. The ignored our requests to fix the original bonus for a month before changing it with no warning.

Prettypupp
12-10-2014, 07:19 PM
It only added 2% to my health regeneration. The last 5% health regeneration on added 3% .

andy2
12-10-2014, 07:38 PM
It only added 2% to my health regeneration. The last 5% health regeneration on added 3% .

Thats how that bonus is calculated. Its been described many times on here, but Gree won't explain it in game yet.

Basically you multiply the values so that 1) you can never reach 100% health regen or more and 2)they become less and less effective the more you have.

Take for example the 7 5% faction bonuses. If you added them you would get 35%, instead you multiply so you get roughly 30%. You start with 1 and each 5% bonus is .95 (a 10% bonus would be .9 etc)

1*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95 = .698 rounded to .7. This means you regen at 70% of the normal rate or -30% bonus.

Prettypupp
12-10-2014, 10:03 PM
Thats how that bonus is calculated. Its been described many times on here, but Gree won't explain it in game yet.

Basically you multiply the values so that 1) you can never reach 100% health regen or more and 2)they become less and less effective the more you have.

Take for example the 7 5% faction bonuses. If you added them you would get 35%, instead you multiply so you get roughly 30%. You start with 1 and each 5% bonus is .95 (a 10% bonus would be .9 etc)

1*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95*.95 = .698 rounded to .7. This means you regen at 70% of the normal rate or -30% bonus.

Thank you. I guess I need to pay attention to the forums a little more. Lol

Beach Head
12-10-2014, 10:42 PM
This is SUCKS GREE..!! Very bad news..!!

Danger Mouse
12-10-2014, 11:06 PM
I wonder how many other bonuses they'll retrofit into "something better"? Whose definition of better are we using anyway? Maybe +3 energy regen becomes 3%? 20% Building cost reduction becomes $20?

Just goes to show how transient, ephemeral and at the end of the arbitrarily vulnerable any concept of "reward" is in this game.

Wingman GRI
12-11-2014, 02:12 AM
...damn did not know they eat t*sticl*s in Vietnam :D

Beach Head
12-11-2014, 12:14 PM
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/Swyn1221/08A14D18-878F-445E-A4CB-9F9A11500983_zps2jlhxnzt.png (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/Swyn1221/media/08A14D18-878F-445E-A4CB-9F9A11500983_zps2jlhxnzt.png.html)

There is the false advertisement by Gree as usual. Above unit pic is the original bonus prize...

kguittar
12-11-2014, 12:45 PM
I think you guys are missing the point, ITS A GOOD THING THEY CHANGED IT! a 3% health increase was designed to take your health from 100% to 103%, which means it would take longer to be full health. when they changed it, they changed it to a -3% health regen so you regen your health faster.

False advertisement is correct, but we just got a BETTER deal than advertised.
why complain about that?

Pidgeot
12-11-2014, 01:23 PM
It should have been +3 health for 103 health. I also rather see boost that help and are not a one time thing.

Beach Head
12-11-2014, 01:24 PM
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I think you guys are missing the point, ITS A GOOD THING THEY CHANGED IT! a 3% health increase was designed to take your health from 100% to 103%, which means it would take longer to be full health. when they changed it, they changed it to a -3% health regen so you regen your health faster.

False advertisement is correct, but we just got a BETTER deal than advertised.
why complain about that?

Think it about it bro! With those +3% will add more in the future & will take it to 150% or to 200%. Instead of you having 4 Free hits on WD you will get 6 more hits on 150% or 8 more Free hits on 200% in WD. More cheaper as you can see, to build up more points when you are very active vs those inactive big spender...

-Commando-
12-11-2014, 02:36 PM
It really doesn't matter since it didn't work, but I would have liked getting 5 hits on an Epic Boss without the wait.

Beach Head
12-11-2014, 03:08 PM
It really doesn't matter since it didn't work, but I would have liked getting 5 hits on an Epic Boss without the wait.

That's true! But I only need 1 shot 1 kill on Boss 150. I don't need an Uzi to kill him just a plain 1 shot on my Sniper Rifle & he/she is history. Lol!