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andy2
11-10-2014, 01:00 PM
While I, like most was pretty skeptical about the temporary bonuses at first, I resigned myself that if done correctly they might have a place in this game. For example, it would provide a tactical advantage to participating in every event and provide you and your faction with bonuses for being active. What I assumed would be the progression was something along the lines where you could compete in an ILTQ to get a temp energy bonus which would help you during the upcoming FLTQ, then during FLTQ your team could compete and earn a temp health bonus that would help out the team in the upcoming war/raid boss etc. I hoped maybe gree would get creative and throw some new event-helping boosts in there, something like a deploy regen for FA, maybe a wd point boost, or a energy regen time boost. Maybe they could throw in differing levels of boost.. eg you complete normal and get 5% health regen, prestige 10%, master 15%.

Instead they just seem to have mailed it in and reverted back to their old boring ways and provided no strategy or motiviation to compete in all of the events. Who cares about a temporary 10% sea attack, especially due to the fact that everyone's attack is 3x higher than def anyways. Even if its a def bonus what does it actually get you? You cant perform better in any events, because stats don't mean anything now. A number just goes up now only to go back down in 3 weeks. These stupid stat boosts do nothing. There is no point. But hey, at least when they break now... no one will care.

WBS
11-10-2014, 05:24 PM
I hate the attack boosts. Now I don't know how much my stats have risen after a WD

Nighthawk
11-10-2014, 06:34 PM
I hate the attack boosts. Now I don't know how much my stats have risen after a WD

It's a conspiracy so that people don't realize how bad the WD prizes have gotten in relation to other events.

Nighthawk
11-10-2014, 06:38 PM
While I, like most was pretty skeptical about the temporary bonuses at first, I resigned myself that if done correctly they might have a place in this game. For example, it would provide a tactical advantage to participating in every event and provide you and your faction with bonuses for being active. What I assumed would be the progression was something along the lines where you could compete in an ILTQ to get a temp energy bonus which would help you during the upcoming FLTQ, then during FLTQ your team could compete and earn a temp health bonus that would help out the team in the upcoming war/raid boss etc. I hoped maybe gree would get creative and throw some new event-helping boosts in there, something like a deploy regen for FA, maybe a wd point boost, or a energy regen time boost. Maybe they could throw in differing levels of boost.. eg you complete normal and get 5% health regen, prestige 10%, master 15%.

Instead they just seem to have mailed it in and reverted back to their old boring ways and provided no strategy or motiviation to compete in all of the events. Who cares about a temporary 10% sea attack, especially due to the fact that everyone's attack is 3x higher than def anyways. Even if its a def bonus what does it actually get you? You cant perform better in any events, because stats don't mean anything now. A number just goes up now only to go back down in 3 weeks. These stupid stat boosts do nothing. There is no point. But hey, at least when they break now... no one will care.

I agree. They did that the first time these temp bonuses came out and (after the initial "These are only temporary?!?" realization) it was fun to chase them. I really liked getting a ridiculous +8 energy (or whatever it was) and then busting through the final, very high energy FLTQ at the end of the cycle.

I wish they would go back to that.

Adm. J(K96)
11-10-2014, 06:39 PM
It's a conspiracy so that people don't realize how bad the WD prizes have gotten in relation to other events.

That's actually the best explanation for temp boosts that I've heard yet. Of course at this particular time, I'm moving beyond tipsy rather quickly.

Blackstone
11-10-2014, 07:26 PM
I agree. They did that the first time these temp bonuses came out and (after the initial "These are only temporary?!?" realization) it was fun to chase them. I really liked getting a ridiculous +8 energy (or whatever it was) and then busting through the final, very high energy FLTQ at the end of the cycle.

I wish they would go back to that.

They quickly realized that +8 energy wasn't lining their pockets and Gree ended that right quick. Now we get the +30% raid payout BS. Lmfao.

Arc9761
11-11-2014, 04:54 AM
They quickly realized that +8 energy wasn't lining their pockets and Gree ended that right quick. Now we get the +30% raid payout BS. Lmfao.

I think you are off by only a little.

Gree baited us with +8 energy, energy coupons and + health regen, in order to encourage factions to go further during that event, and every event that follows.

I know a few people that have left because their teams demanded the same level of achievement with or without temp bonuses.

A lot of people have paid, and are paying to keep up.

Gree found a way to get low gold spenders to open up their pocket books.

andy2
11-11-2014, 11:11 AM
I think you are off by only a little.

Gree baited us with +8 energy, energy coupons and + health regen, in order to encourage factions to go further during that event, and every event that follows.

I know a few people that have left because their teams demanded the same level of achievement with or without temp bonuses.

A lot of people have paid, and are paying to keep up.

Gree found a way to get low gold spenders to open up their pocket books.

I could be convinced that at least part of this is true. Make events easier for a cycle or two so that minimums have to be raised, then make them harder again hoping that minimums aren't correspondingly reduced. This would fit with the seeming mentality of Gree to squeeze every penny from its existing player base instead of building a lasting and growing community. By doing so already, they have me doing far fewer events than I would have if the rewards are better. Cough 2% health regen is a joke cough. Temporary boosts are only one example of the prizes not worth bothering with the effort or $ for now.

Adm. J(K96)
11-11-2014, 11:23 AM
If a faction can't or won't be fluid in its requirements, then all they are doing is helping feed the Gree pig. Certainly not a faction that gives two turds about its members.

WinkadInk
11-11-2014, 03:03 PM
I agree. They did that the first time these temp bonuses came out and (after the initial "These are only temporary?!?" realization) it was fun to chase them. I really liked getting a ridiculous +8 energy (or whatever it was) and then busting through the final, very high energy FLTQ at the end of the cycle.

I wish they would go back to that.
I wish they would go back to permanent boost

Jimmymanfunfun
11-11-2014, 06:34 PM
The only thing that would be interesting is if the max building upgrade bonus would last longer.
I went for it the last couple times but all said and done, it's not worth it to spend 2 and a half weeks upgrading a building with a lousy IPH just so I can have the ability to upgrade 2 good buildings at the same time for about 3-4 days.

borochris
11-11-2014, 11:56 PM
Temp bonuses are simply grees way of making us pay to get nothing!
Where else would you work for / pay for some thing that just disappears after a few days.
For Gree it is literally MONEY FOR NOTHING

Do not spend gold to get temp items!

Zedsdead
11-12-2014, 06:55 AM
They are pretty pointless. Particularly increased raid or valor payouts. I didn't even bother to go for those last time. Not sure it's worth it for the attack/defense boosts either, since as the OP pointed out, the current mismatch between A/D means that boosts don't really matter.

The Judy
11-12-2014, 02:12 PM
It's a conspiracy so that people don't realize how bad the WD prizes have gotten in relation to other events.

I think this is part of it. Screenshot your stats just after WD ends. The temp boosts are gone and stats drop to normal until prizes are awarded. Gives you better idea of actual gains.

I Will Merc You
11-12-2014, 02:20 PM
Another shining example of something good, that was changed to bad, and is now irrelevant.

....oh yeah, and accompanying these changes, is the new ability that doesn't allow us to open the game.

xxZestxx
11-13-2014, 08:26 PM
My 2 cents on temp bonus, good idea for very very very low ranked factions an members, but on the other hand, would ld you rather use your energy an resources to get at temp 30% boost or a not temp unit that is 800k. I rather have the permanent unit, yes the temp might help during this single WD match. That permanent unit will help all the time. So I don't waste my time with temps.

xxZestxx
11-13-2014, 08:59 PM
On temps. Here is a good question. If they are temporary, which do they stay on your individual bonuse?

andy2
11-14-2014, 08:14 AM
On temps. Here is a good question. If they are temporary, which do they stay on your individual bonuse?

In the newest version they did split them out, so now in your profile there is a perm boost section and a temporary section.

In other news the boosts keep getting more and more useless. We now have a 30% mission payout coming up.... darn I'll sure miss that when it's gone /sarcasm. Seems more and more like they are determined to make these temp boosts more and more useless just furthering the bait and switch. Make the boosts good at first, so all the faction requirements go up, then take more and more of the actual helpful boosts away each cycle and hope people don't notice.

Adm. J(K96)
11-14-2014, 09:59 AM
Poorly run faction if that's the case.

andy2
11-14-2014, 10:09 AM
Poorly run faction if that's the case.

Agree, but how many of those do you think there are out there? Probably quite a few.

Adm. J(K96)
11-14-2014, 10:36 AM
That's a player issue, not a Gree issue. If that's the kind of group you choose to stay with, you get what you deserve. If that's the kind of group you run, you get what you deserve. Nothing at all on grees end preventing anybody from being smart.

andy2
11-14-2014, 10:50 AM
That's a player issue, not a Gree issue. If that's the kind of group you choose to stay with, you get what you deserve. If that's the kind of group you run, you get what you deserve. Nothing at all on grees end preventing anybody from being smart.

My point is only that Gree is well aware of this and is taking advantage of it, its well known that we as a whole (mw consumers) are not smart, otherwise we would have stopped paying for a badly flawed product years ago, especially after they have shown little to no effort to make it better.