An official statement from 3D Alliance Leadership re: The Vampire War

[xXxSteelxXx]

To the KnD Community,

As you know, x X x Danger x X x, as the war vehicle for the 3D Alliance, is just about to win the current Epic event, Vampire War. Thank you, for those of you who did, for your congratulations and support, they are much appreciated.

It has become clear to us during the war that many of you are interested in how we were able to pull off the kind of performance that we did – in some cases that was accompanied by the suspicion that cheating was involved. We can assure you that it was not the case, and welcome any investigation by GREE. The fact is, although some shouldered more burden than others, everyone did their fair share and more (all over 1,000,000 points), and that is how the "phenomenal" scoring was achieved. There were no excuses for all but one extreme case. You don’t need to speed hack to score 6 million points in a battle when 40 players each score 100,000 (which we all acknowledge is easily done) – multiply that by the winning bonus, and you have 6 million. We chose not to address this issue earlier during the war, nor say anything in particular for that matter, because following some unpleasantness at the end of recent events, 3D has embraced the challenge of playing in a clean, fair environment, free of nastiness and unfair tactics, and does not want to distract other guilds with taunting and accusations. We are proud to say we earned our victory honourably and through our sweat, toil, and hard earned money.

The success of 3D was the product of a lot of planning and saving on the part of players in our alliance, careful selection of proven hitters (no leeches or unknown mercs without true loyalty to the cause) and an esprit d’corp between our players that makes us more than mere guilds, but a family of friends. People had been sitting patiently in waiting rooms for the past two months, made holes in their work schedules, passed up lesser awards and bought gems at the cheapest possible prices when available. Alliance leadership had been discussing timing and strategy throughout the process. The last minute and evolving nature of this war almost derailed the effort, but it was salvaged by the commitment and sheer determination of our team, as well as the many, many strong member of 3D ready to put their hands up and participate. This is what every great team in the history of the world can accomplish, and it is what we did. May it stand as a boilerplate for any other alliance which wishes to attempt the same endeavour. We were a lucky Few, the 40 who did the run, but if not for the Many, many members of the 3D Alliance who supported us and participated in the strategy, we would have not succeeded. The Few were indebted to the Many, and owe their victory to them, and the support structure that exists between every member guild of 3D.

And at the end of the day, that is who we are – we are both the Few and the Many, no person any less valuable than the next, no matter their wealth or standing. We are the 3D Alliance – Determined, Dominant and Defiant – and we invite you to come and join us if you wish to be a part of what we do!

All the best, and with many thanks for your time,
3D Alliance Leadership


xXx Steel 3D - x X x Danger x X x GS/GC and member of 3D Leadership

[Rookeye]

...We were a lucky Few, the 40 who did the run, but if not for the Many, many members of the 3D Alliance who supported us and participated in the strategy, we would have not succeeded. The Few were indebted to the Many, and owe their victory to them, and the support structure that exists between every member guild of 3D...

Congrats on your win. Could you enlighten me how the "many, many" who were not "the lucky few" made your victory? :)

EDIT: Having read more details on your win, just wanted to renew my congratulations. You've made game history.

[TakeTheirTeeth]

consistency. Like it or not, DK is still the #1 guild.

[Rookeye]

Can you post the winning screenshot, for those of us not in Android?

[B Legit]

consistency. Like it or not, DK is still the #1 guild.

Last 3 armor war winners...
Beastmode Gods
Death Knights
xXxDangerxXx

Not very consistent :)

Congrats to BBT on their T25 though! :D

[tnorman78]

Last 3 armor war winners...
Beastmode Gods
Death Knights
xXxDangerxXx

Not very consistent :)


Congrats to BBT on their T25 though! :D
Well said.. Congrats Danger

[sunnyred]

I am far from a sore loser but can not help but to say that yall fight fair for one war won. Yet your alliance has no honor as most of your members in game name changes has been rude to members with curse words and slender. Not once has DK changed names to taunt anyone form your alliance. Again before you say you fight fair with honor acknowledged that you do not.

[TakeTheirTeeth]

Last 3 armor war winners...
Beastmode Gods
Death Knights
xXxDangerxXx

Not very consistent :)
Congrats to BBT on their T25 though! :D

2 out of how many? Nobody even comes close to their record of #1 finishes.

[TakeTheirTeeth]

I am far from a sore loser but can not help but to say that yall fight fair for one war won. Yet your alliance has no honor as most of your members in game name changes has been rude to members with curse words and slender. Not once has DK changed names to taunt anyone form your alliance. Again before you say you fight fair with honor acknowledged that you do not.

True story

[legalious]

Congrats. I hope that one day I can make top in any war.


*Raises Glass* Here is to the next victory! Cheers.

[B Legit]

2 out of how many? Nobody even comes close to their record of #1 finishes.

Yeah nobody comes close to the Yankees 27 World Series Rings, are they the best team today? Nope. Nobody is not acknowledging DK ran #1 for a year, the results show it. Things change.


I am far from a sore loser but can not help but to say that yall fight fair for one war won. Yet your alliance has no honor as most of your members in game name changes has been rude to members with curse words and slender. Not once has DK changed names to taunt anyone form your alliance. Again before you say you fight fair with honor acknowledged that you do not.

Fighting fair and taunting are two very different things. Was there some taunting, sure, but please, please, please do not act like it was not been 100% provoked from the DK leadership, which the only thing they'e done consistently over the last month is play the victim.

Fairness, nobody can argue, both sides fought fair.

[rmakatk]

Hey b legit I love that you chime in. By the way what rank have you all finished this war? You guys wouldnt know the top 10 if it hit you in the face and said hi. Maybe you should focus on your guild instead of chime in on something you know nothing about. You said last 3 wars 2 of which DK finished outside of top 1 what about before that? How many times before that did DK finish outside of topn1 when they participated fully. Also you should realize that cheating the last 2 our of 3 times to get to be on top isnt really something id brag about.

[Sithdeathstroke]

It has become clear to us during the war that many of you are interested in how we were able to pull off the kind of performance that we did – in some cases that was accompanied by the suspicion that cheating was involved. We can assure you that it was not the case, and welcome any investigation by GREE. The fact is, although some shouldered more burden than others, everyone did their fair share and more (all over 1,000,000 points), and that is how the "phenomenal" scoring was achieved. There were no excuses for all but one extreme case. You don’t need to speed hack to score 6 million ...........


I want to say congratulations to the true winners of this war. Gree will get their emails and do nothing but they have been giving ss of xXx Danger xXx members scoring every 4 to 5 seconds. Even with a strip this is not possible. I love an honest fight and I would love a chance at it. Gree has a lot of changing to do if they expect people to stay and pay when hackers can win and not get punishment. I also em not a sore loser if I was beaten fair and square.

[B Legit]

Hey b legit I love that you chime in. By the way what rank have you all finished this war? You guys wouldnt know the top 10 if it hit you in the face and said hi. Maybe you should focus on your guild instead of chime in on something you know nothing about. You said last 3 wars 2 of which DK finished outside of top 1 what about before that? How many times before that did DK finish outside of topn1 when they participated fully. Also you should realize that cheating the last 2 our of 3 times to get to be on top isnt really something id brag about.

You obviously read nothing I said lol. Please read and reconsider your statement.

Also BoP took 75th this war with no real big req, not bad for sending 10+ merc's to top 10's/T1's. Also also, last time I checked, BoP has finished top 10 a bunch of times. So yeah I know nothing about a run I helped organize, how silly of me! Check ya facts homeboy.

OH! And thanks for personifying my point about playing the victim, again, the irony.

[StormBlessed]

Hey b legit I love that you chime in. By the way what rank have you all finished this war? You guys wouldnt know the top 10 if it hit you in the face and said hi. Maybe you should focus on your guild instead of chime in on something you know nothing about. You said last 3 wars 2 of which DK finished outside of top 1 what about before that? How many times before that did DK finish outside of topn1 when they participated fully. Also you should realize that cheating the last 2 our of 3 times to get to be on top isnt really something id brag about.

1) The war BMG won was not cheating, it was fair play. It's well documented and self admitted the idea to nuke all of the BBT members before the war. Had it coming, every bit of it.

2) I have warred personally with B Legit, he is a serious player, thoughtful, a leader, well spoken. Also, what is the point of personally accusing him of it?

3) I was in KoF during the Apoc war. I know absolute first hand that Empire doesn't play above the board. Maybe you recall the spy in KoF that rogue declared and stripped so KoF would get kicked out of T10. I sure do and I still have all of the screen shot evidence. I can say that whatever has happened here is cosmic justice for that nonsense. So when you have a clean track record, then you can throw stones. Until then, go in the corner and cry over not being #1. But do so quietly, we are all enjoying collectively winning the right way.

[EmceeSly]

It has become clear to us during the war that many of you are interested in how we were able to pull off the kind of performance that we did – in some cases that was accompanied by the suspicion that cheating was involved. We can assure you that it was not the case, and welcome any investigation by GREE. The fact is, although some shouldered more burden than others, everyone did their fair share and more (all over 1,000,000 points), and that is how the "phenomenal" scoring was achieved. There were no excuses for all but one extreme case. You don’t need to speed hack to score 6 million ...........


I want to say congratulations to the true winners of this war. Gree will get their emails and do nothing but they have been giving ss of xXx Danger xXx members scoring every 4 to 5 seconds. Even with a strip this is not possible. I love an honest fight and I would love a chance at it. Gree has a lot of changing to do if they expect people to stay and pay when hackers can win and not get punishment. I also em not a sore loser if I was beaten fair and square.

Really? Checking every 5 seconds were you?
And given the consistency of Gree servers you believe that you saw speed hacking?

Uh huh

[Kangaroeland]

I came for a "nananananaa" message but its some boring e-penis measuring contest :(

Congrats to the winners ( especially nr with their great finish), sorry for the losers and hahahahaha at the sore losers

[xXxSteelxXx]

I am far from a sore loser but can not help but to say that yall fight fair for one war won. Yet your alliance has no honor as most of your members in game name changes has been rude to members with curse words and slender. Not once has DK changed names to taunt anyone form your alliance. Again before you say you fight fair with honor acknowledged that you do not.

Actually, what I said was that we aspire to higher standards following recent incidents. All 3D players are aware of the policies and what is expected of them.

I have been informed of a very small number members of 3D going outside these policies. If considered appropriate, action will be taken. How this constitutes a universal/"most of our members" breach of fairness and honour is beyond me. And in game taunting notwithstanding, we do, as B-legit has pointed out, have plenty of examples of LINE based and other taunting by DK players.

Frankly, this is discussion will go nowhere, and is sterile conjecture. The point is - we are trying to aspire to do the right thing, and, as you acknowledge, have by and large proved that.

Ta
Steel

[xXxSteelxXx]

Congrats on your win. Could you enlighten me how the "many, many" who were not "the lucky few" made your victory? :)

EDIT: Having read more details on your win, just wanted to renew my congratulations. You've made game history.

Rook, there will be general information available on how 3D operates and how the war was won. Please look this up when it comes about. Reversal's Youtube channel would be a good start for the kind of info you are looking for.

[xXxSteelxXx]

I want to say congratulations to the true winners of this war. Gree will get their emails and do nothing but they have been giving ss of xXx Danger xXx members scoring every 4 to 5 seconds. Even with a strip this is not possible. I love an honest fight and I would love a chance at it. Gree has a lot of changing to do if they expect people to stay and pay when hackers can win and not get punishment. I also em not a sore loser if I was beaten fair and square.

You were beaten fair and square, I'm sorry to say. It didn't happen.

Everyone knows that the battle logs can be glitchy. I was watching them myself during the war - on occasions, it took up to 30 seconds for information and fight results to be recorded. No proof at all.

But in any case - the screenshot which I believe you are relying on as "evidence" was from a totally irrelevant (the very last) battle, in which I participated. People need to see the whole board, which you are not giving them. Even if we were (and we weren't), no one had any reason to speed hack. The player who is accused of hacking didn't even run up a lot of wins and wasn't one of the war's top scorers. It's a laughable proposition, and even before that screenshot from the very last war - we know from day one that people like you were accusing us of speed hacking without proof, and desperately trying to find any evidence to support your paranoid assertion. Indeed, in the one real fight we squared off against DK in earnest... you lost because of our weight of numbers and intelligent play, and no evidence of any hacking arose from that - in fact, despite numerous in-game disconnect issues, it was two players from DK who ended up with the highest and fastest scores in that match.

I have no personal dislike of you, and I understand that you want to believe you got cheated. Fact - Danger had the better team this time. We outscored you. We won. I suggest you accept that and move on.

Cheers,
Steel

[JustTheTip]

I came for a "nananananaa" message but its some boring e-penis measuring contest :(

Congrats to the winners ( especially nr with their great finish), sorry for the losers and hahahahaha at the sore losers

Sooo DK lost! In a real, fair battle. Danger was better prepared. The 7 P's if you will. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. So neiner neiner neiner :op Sorry about your luck DK. See ya next time.
~JustTheTip

[xXxSteelxXx]

You were beaten fair and square, I'm sorry to say. It didn't happen.

Everyone knows that the battle logs can be glitchy. I was watching them myself during the war - on occasions, it took up to 30 seconds for information and fight results to be recorded. No proof at all.

But in any case - the screenshot which I believe you are relying on as "evidence" was from a totally irrelevant (the very last) battle, in which I participated. People need to see the whole board, which you are not giving them. Even if we were (and we weren't), no one had any reason to speed hack. The player who is accused of hacking didn't even run up a lot of wins and wasn't one of the war's top scorers. It's a laughable proposition, and even before that screenshot from the very last war - we know from day one that people like you were accusing us of speed hacking without proof, and desperately trying to find any evidence to support your paranoid assertion. Indeed, in the one real fight we squared off against DK in earnest... you lost because of our weight of numbers and intelligent play, and no evidence of any hacking arose from that - in fact, despite numerous in-game disconnect issues, it was two players from DK who ended up with the highest and fastest scores in that match.

I have no personal dislike of you, and I understand that you want to believe you got cheated. Fact - Danger had the better team this time. We outscored you. We won. I suggest you accept that and move on.

Cheers,
Steel

Have just received ss confirmation the player being accussed of speed hacking and cited as proof of danger/3d cheating got a grand total of 123 attacks in the war in question...

Blistering pace. Must be some sort of record.

(With heavy sarcasm)

[seta sojiro]

I was in KoF during the Apoc war. I know absolute first hand that Empire doesn't play above the board. Maybe you recall the spy in KoF that rogue declared and stripped so KoF would get kicked out of T10. I sure do and I still have all of the screen shot evidence. I can say that whatever has happened here is cosmic justice for that nonsense. So when you have a clean track record, then you can throw stones. Until then, go in the corner and cry over not being #1. But do so quietly, we are all enjoying collectively winning the right way.

Hah! Nuf said.

xXxDangerxXx and 3D Alliance, Hats off to a great win and KUDOS NR for grabbing that 10th spot!

DK, umm, just learn to accept reality sometimes. Peace out

[Ethical]

Hahaha...3D legit win? All big alliances do extreme things to win unfortunately legal and illegal so forget about ethical.
Danger claims they saved gems and took time off months in advance for a war which nobody expected.
A war that started with GREE making a mistake with dates so give me a break. Danger sent 4 players to DK to leech and sabotage a war which was badly plan by DK to start with.
Danger claims having 40 players at same time making 100k points that add up to 4 million + 2 million win bonus. Tell me how many guilds have ever had 40 players fighting for the whole hr and all of them making 100k each at the same time several times throughout the war.
whole knd is corrupt and GREE will do nothing about it. Speed hacks by players from several guilds Emp, 3D, Jedi you name it all alliances have them.
The reason game won't survive much longer its unfortunate for all players that spent thousands of dollars and are quitting on a daily basis.

[Christopher Goh]

First and foremost, congrats to x X x Danger x X x for the victory.

I would say whether there is signs of cheating or not does not really matter. If the rest of the guilds are able to counter the war plan that Danger have then we won't have all this post going around.

Anyway it is just a game and what Danger did in this war really set the epic war in a level that was never before. It is now up to the rest to match this or be even better.

War is about teamwork and good leadership so rather then looking at how good your opponent is, why not look at how to triumph against them then arguing over an official result?

[MossDog]

Hahaha...3D legit win? All big alliances do extreme things to win unfortunately legal and illegal so forget about ethical.
Danger claims they saved gems and took time off months in advance for a war which nobody expected.
A war that started with GREE making a mistake with dates so give me a break. Danger sent 4 players to DK to leech and sabotage a war which was badly plan by DK to start with.
Danger claims having 40 players at same time making 100k points that add up to 4 million + 2 million win bonus. Tell me how many guilds have ever had 40 players fighting for the whole hr and all of them making 100k each at the same time several times throughout the war.
whole knd is corrupt and GREE will do nothing about it. Speed hacks by players from several guilds Emp, 3D, Jedi you name it all alliances have them.
The reason game won't survive much longer its unfortunate for all players that spent thousands of dollars and are quitting on a daily basis.

I was there. I was one who saved for a month to do this. Although actual dates were never planned we did plan to do it at some point. Gree messing with the schedule almost derailed us but we decided to give it a shot.
Guilds/Players/alliances that want to show DK they aren't invincible and that we can do what we want (including take #1) when we want will have 40 players banging hard from the beginning because we are a TEAM all out to accomplish the same thing. Sad part is that nowhere in your imagination could 40 people all be striving for the same goal. Almost the entire guild scored over 1.3 million points with most well over that. Sorry but to score that many points your bound to be on the game at the same time as others.
There were NO speed hacks used. You'll believe as you wish though.......

[furyp]

Good job Danger. You made your first baby step. Now try to walk and deliver results consistently.

[xXxSteelxXx]

Toast I'm not going to argue with many of your comments, which appear to be just designed to stir (troll xD) except to say - so if someone denies something, they are guilty? What if they admit it? What if they just vanish into eerie silence? Apparently everyone is guilty on your esteemed opinion and deeply questionable logic. Or you're just trolling. Either way - enjoy ;)

[Reversal]

Guys, guys, guys and well... potential women reading this entire topic.

I would like to remind you that this thread's topic was an official statement coming from x X x Danger x X x regarding this war.
Yet a few replies in I'm seeing bullets being fired back and forth between DK supporters and the 3D Alliance supporters.
It's alright to have an opinion but the moment you start bashing a guild by accusing them of using hacks I want to remind you that that is NOT what this thread or forum is about.

If you have a problem with players from a guild and you wish to make a statement about how they hacked WITH providing solid proof, I'd like you send a PM to any Gree Forum Community Manager or send a Ticket in game explaining the story thoroughly what happened and exactly how.
NOTE: Straight up accusations won't do a thing in this case, however though you can ask them to do a check on the player or guild in question.

Let's keep the forum clean here, I'd like to see no more accusations of hacking from this point on forward or I'll be forced to initiate a clean sweep in this topic soon ;)

In other words, show some respect by staying mature about this because certain people keep putting oil on the fire right now.

[B Legit]

when we want will have 40 players banging hard from the beginning because we are a TEAM all out to accomplish the same thing. Sad part is that nowhere in your imagination could 40 people all be striving for the same goal. Almost the entire guild scored over 1.3 million points with most well over that.

Yep, we drew Danger the very first war. I was fortunate enough to witness 38 people attack, I believe all of which, or damn close, did over 100k, which no score's absurdly high. If "ethical" would've seen that war, I'm sure he would retract the statement. It was simply, awesome.

[Smiley80]

Android seems to have a healthy competition.

iOS has had a perfect streak of Guild and raid wars awarded to rainbow alliance guilds. Only one blitz war was ever won by a non alliance guild.

[firefly333]

Hey congrats team Danger who was all the best from all of 3D. What teamwork and Steel you were great.

Reversal said how we all need to be mature and all and I was kinda like who?? So, I came to read this thread.

I was 5th in pts after 24 hours and most know I'm non tech and couldn't hack if I wanted to but I can hit. I let down my team by getting sick and pretty much quit hitting, but will make up for it next time we take on DK, I promised Danger.

Great teamwork does wonders. Thanks to all of those who could pm me simple congrats without adding ..did you hack? A simple congrats is nice and welcome. The other is insulting.

I left DK with over 20k gems and been waiting to use them to go first for months ...like the others, saved my gems and so enjoyed this and hope there are many more pushes to come by 3D. It was not Danger only, but people from all of 3D joining together as a team. Big secret is out, put your big hitters on one team and see what they can do, teamwork. wow.

Dangerous Fire and DB Fire (I still play in both guilds)

line id legendzfire

[Francois Brousseau]

So danger you say you guys dont cheat well thats a bunch of bull and i have a ss that says otherwise. .. you can hit within 3 seconds intervals. ...you guys cheated period

[xXxSteelxXx]

So danger you say you guys dont cheat well thats a bunch of bull and i have a ss that says otherwise. .. you can hit within 3 seconds intervals. ...you guys cheated period

Nice try Francois. Saw that SS. Firstly, the logs can be inaccurate with server lag. Secondly, the player you are accussing (and yes, you are talking about ONE PLAYER, not "you guys") only got 123 attacks that battle (which was the meaningless final fight in the war when we were up by 29 million already), and was 35th on our scoring list at the end of the war. So IF he was a speed hacker, we're talking the worst speed hacker in the history of the world.

I suggest you consider getting more and better evidence if you want to make anymore assertions... or as the leader of DK once said, let GREE "finish their investigations before mistaking fast scoring for hacking" (or something like that).

Regards
Steel

[xXStormXx]

3d wants all kinds of recognition for hitting#1 spot. But yall admitted it took months of planning and saving. So we should expect you to hit #1 what? 6 times in the next year. You guys will be the kings of inconsistency.

[Francois Brousseau]

Nice try Francois. Saw that SS. Firstly, the logs can be inaccurate with server lag. Secondly, the player you are accussing (and yes, you are talking about ONE PLAYER, not "you guys") only got 123 attacks that battle (which was the meaningless final fight in the war when we were up by 29 million already), and was 35th on our scoring list at the end of the war. So IF he was a speed hacker, we're talking the worst speed hacker in the history of the world.

I suggest you consider getting more and better evidence if you want to make anymore assertions... or as the leader of DK once said, let GREE "finish their investigations before mistaking fast scoring for hacking" (or something like that).

Regards
Steel

Nice try danger.....lies on top of lies.... your last fight was against bond beyond time there r screen shots of that also....with all the insulting names your guys put to insult us was enough for plp to ss the last battle reports...... not only do you cheat but you belive your own lies... thats really sad

[xXxSteelxXx]

Ummmm... check you facts again Francois. OTB was up against BBT last. OTB relegated BBT to 11th by winning. You really have no clue, I'm afraid.

I'm not going to dignify your insults and incorrect assertions with any further response. Troll away.

Good day.

Ta
Steel

[Fossil]

Congratulations, but let me ask one question. You only give direct credit to 40 players which I presume are the account holders. Did you not transfer some accounts to a night shift? The effort would seem to require more than 40 players

[GeneralUsa]

I have played the game for a year (still loving it).
I notice that DK has consistently ranked #1.
Only the recent 3-day wars that two other guilds took #1: "BeastMode Gods" and now "xXx Danger xXx".
I think it is good for the game (KnD) that there is some real competition for the top spot.

So, congratulations to the 3D alliance for their #1 ranking.

[Francois Brousseau]

[QUOTE=xXxSteelxXx;1407705]Ummmm... check you facts again Francois. OTB was up against BBT last. OTB relegated BBT to 11th by winning. You really have no clue, I'm afraid.

I'm not going to dignify your insults and incorrect assertions with any further response. Troll away.

Good *


Im done talking with you bud... you will see

[B Legit]

Nice try danger.....lies on top of lies.... your last fight was against bond beyond time there r screen shots of that also....with all the insulting names your guys put to insult us was enough for plp to ss the last battle reports...... not only do you cheat but you belive your own lies... thats really sad

You're funny. Go 3D. If you're going to claim a cheater, at least accuse someone who wasn't towards to bottom half of attacks lmao.

Ps. IfUnot1stUrLast :) <--- Is that one of the name changes you're referring to? I thought it was a creative way to poke fun at someone who consistently insults me and everyone else on here and on Line, but if you disagree, that's fine. Go ahead and look through previous posts and you'll see that these "insulting" name's were actually PG in comparison to the nastiness DK has been bringing... including POSTING A DANGER MEMBERS PERSONAL INFO ON A PUBLIC FORUM. Oh yeah all EMP fanboys forgot about that.

Pss... BBT and OTB did in fact fight the very last war in a loser out with OTB won by a slim margin in a dog fight. Pretty cool to watch actually.

[firefly333]

Nice try danger.....lies on top of lies.... your last fight was against bond beyond time there r screen shots of that also....with all the insulting names your guys put to insult us was enough for plp to ss the last battle reports...... not only do you cheat but you belive your own lies... thats really sad

Hahahahahhahahaha. so much hate and people with no facts. Its so fun to listen to this kind of stuff. I was so happy to see BBT bite the dust and drop to 11th. And nope Danger only got to watch this fun. Im told it was OTB who matched BBT and gave them the spanking.

I was in Danger so I would remember if we got BBT.

I love how people make up facts and try to spread falsehoods they are so jelly. Makes me laugh. We done good.

Night shift?? Where was my night shift player??? Didnt show up? hmmmfpt.

ta ta ...until next time. Now we know we can do this, we will be sure to do it again. I bet now that others see how easy DK was to beat, other alliances will be stepping up too. Last time was Gypsy ...now us..next time??? jedi?? I agree its much better for the game to spread around the #1. Who wants to be #1 every war and spend all the gems, but once in a while, YES. Im down to 17k gems, plenty to go another round. Who is game?

Dangerous Fire

Line ID legendzfire

[Clementine]

While we encourage competition between players and Alliances, please refrain from personal attacks and accusations. If it continues, I will need to lock this thread.

[MossDog]

While we encourage competition between players and Alliances, please refrain from personal attacks and accusations. If it continues, I will need to lock this thread.

I knows it's Gree's policy to not discuss investigations into cheating. I suggest you guys start to. It would put to rest a lot of accusations and let your community of players know you are actually doing something about it.

[Reversal]

Talking about people pointing their fingers at eachother:


http://youtu.be/lZ_MoJxKcw0

[sxespanky]

Talking about people pointing their fingers at eachother:


http://youtu.be/lZ_MoJxKcw0

Reversal, why are you not a forum mod. there are a handful of you guys who are seriously great personalities on the forum, and you get nothing.

also - the bans only happaned because the hype we put up on the forum, just saying. they dont have checks and balances otherwise.

many of us already are on the forums 24/7, and might as well let them manage the forums for free. geez.

[Rhaegal]

I just have one tiny question that's a bit off topic. How in the world do you get 17k gems saved up?

Assuming you get free vids every day and get gems from arena every week and you save from the raid events, if you saved all that without spending a single gem you'd have about 400-500 gems per month. To save 17k gems you'd have to have been saving for like 3 YEARS!

[MisterT]

I just have one tiny question that's a bit off topic. How in the world do you get 17k gems saved up?

Assuming you get free vids every day and get gems from arena every week and you save from the raid events, if you saved all that without spending a single gem you'd have about 400-500 gems per month. To save 17k gems you'd have to have been saving for like 3 YEARS!


When you buy gems at 30 or 40% sale, it adds up quickly

[Kangaroeland]

Thanks JTT :D

[Rhaegal]

When you buy gems at 30 or 40% sale, it adds up quickly

Even if you bought every gem at 40% off it would cost $1300. And while I know ppl do spend that kind of money on this game.. Why sit on 17k gems?

[Captnpain]

Even if you bought every gem at 40% off it would cost $1300. And while I know ppl do spend that kind of money on this game.. Why sit on 17k gems?

Because we want to, plain and simple

[Sithdeathstroke]

I hit wonders.....Congrats?????....... you won now let's see you keep it up. Oh you saved for months and only 5 of your core guys can buy 10k plus at any time going forward lol I'm glad you guys where able to do it once. Over a game this is a joke. Reversal just quite already because no one was banned as you say they where. I'm bias on this one. Not choosing sides but come on. Brag when you guys can do it more then once. Bring it every war oh wait 1 player has the bank roll for danger. speaking of which...... isn't it against policy to let someone else hit on your account cough cough you know who were talking about in danger. How about Gree start investigating not speed hacks or any of that garbage because let's be honest you're not going to stop any of it,but actually start investigating how many emails attached to an account during the war.or how many device transfers. You guys that do it know who I'm talking about you guys can't hit on your own you just fund your accounts for other people to hit on it. so hats off to all people in all alliances that hit on their own and don't have others hit for them which is against policy.

[firefly333]

I hit wonders.....Congrats?????....... you won now let's see you keep it up. Oh you saved for months and only 5 of your core guys can buy 10k plus at any time going forward lol I'm glad you guys where able to do it once. Over a game this is a joke. Reversal just quite already because no one was banned as you say they where. I'm bias on this one. Not choosing sides but come on. Brag when you guys can do it more then once. Bring it every war oh wait 1 player has the bank roll for danger. speaking of which...... isn't it against policy to let someone else hit on your account cough cough you know who were talking about in danger. How about Gree start investigating not speed hacks or any of that garbage because let's be honest you're not going to stop any of it,but actually start investigating how many emails attached to an account during the war.or how many device transfers. You guys that do it know who I'm talking about you guys can't hit on your own you just fund your accounts for other people to hit on it. so hats off to all people in all alliances that hit on their own and don't have others hit for them which is against policy.

Oh its against the rules to have someone else hit for you?? Really. I was DK for 8 months and know how many times Artur hit for others. The one time he hit for Axeo he remained stripped. Everyone freaking out. How about the time Axeo went first in the arena and War Machine took over for him because his phone is faster? I can go on. I remember a time Rob missed min, his excuse was he was hitting for three people. I cant think of many wars DK didnt have others hitting for them. You seem sadly naive about knd. Artur has run for DK members so many times. ...and so on. Im sure its still going on.

Im betting a lot of guilds have people hitting for others and pass around accounts. Even my little db we gave one to a kid whose phone is broke so he can play.

As far as the bankrolling rumor. I think it was put out there to see if people would bite and pass it to DK. Yup yup. Always spying and people who cant wait to pass on info, true or not.

You really think only 5 people can buy that many gems?? Really ...hahhahahahaha.

I am glad we finally put all our strong members in one guild. I hope we do it again and again. Even DK now says they arent going to do it everytime...only when they feel like it or like the prize.

Dangers motto is we do what we feel like. (not what is expected). ...and thats just Danger.

XXX Fire BAMF

[Sithdeathstroke]

Oh its against the rules to have someone else hit for you?? Really. I was DK for 8 months and know how many times Artur hit for others. The one time he hit for Axeo he remained stripped. Everyone freaking out. How about the time Axeo went first in the arena and War Machine took over for him because his phone is faster? I can go on. I remember a time Rob missed min, his excuse was he was hitting for three people. I cant think of many wars DK didnt have others hitting for them. You seem sadly naive about knd. Artur has run for DK members so many times. ...and so on. Im sure its still going on.

Im betting a lot of guilds have people hitting for others and pass around accounts. Even my little db we gave one to a kid whose phone is broke so he can play.

As far as the bankrolling rumor. I think it was put out there to see if people would bite and pass it to DK. Yup yup. Always spying and people who cant wait to pass on info, true or not.

You really think only 5 people can buy that many gems?? Really ...hahhahahahaha.

I am glad we finally put all our strong members in one guild. I hope we do it again and again. Even DK now says they arent going to do it everytime...only when they feel like it or like the prize.

Dangers motto is we do what we feel like. (not what is expected). ...and thats just Danger.

XXX Fire BAMF

I'm pretty sure I made it very clear and I said no matter what alliance people should hit on their own account it's not fair to the others that spend the three days hitting on their own account and others can just sit back and allow others to hit for them do U not know how to read and once again you're not allowed to call out specific players on here why don't you get familiar with the terms of using the forums too. and yes it's against terms of use of the game to allow others to hit for you why don't you read those as well gree really needs to look into everybody's account to see who hits for themselves and who has others hit for them. Also I got my black metal in arena by myself just like everyone I've ever been in no one has ever hit for me. And who said anything about dk. Why does anybody say anything on here and automatically you go to dk. I'm speaking on my own on a forum in general about all guilds never once did I say anything about dk.

[firefly333]

I named retired players. whatever.

My account has never been out of my possession. I always hit for myself. My choice. I love wars.

I dont think transfers are against the TOS? Sales are against the TOS. Or I misunderstand the terms. Good luck enforcing this. I suggest you contact Gree since this is the first time I ever heard of someone who is upset about account transfers being allowed.

I have been hitting for myself in two accounts all year with no backup. Yelling at someone who is 100% honest does no one any good unless it makes you feel better. My one and only transfer was from a older tablet to a newer tablet I bought myself at xmas.

There is a hacking problem going around and perhaps we both could turn our attention to something useful and find a way to suggest to Gree to better safeguard our accounts.

[Fossil]

Oh its against the rules to have someone else hit for you?? Really. I was DK for 8 months and know how many times Artur hit for others. The one time he hit for Axeo he remained stripped. Everyone freaking out. How about the time Axeo went first in the arena and War Machine took over for him because his phone is faster? I can go on. I remember a time Rob missed min, his excuse was he was hitting for three people. I cant think of many wars DK didnt have others hitting for them. You seem sadly naive about knd. Artur has run for DK members so many times. ...and so on. Im sure its still going on.

Im betting a lot of guilds have people hitting for others and pass around accounts. Even my little db we gave one to a kid whose phone is broke so he can play.

As far as the bankrolling rumor. I think it was put out there to see if people would bite and pass it to DK. Yup yup. Always spying and people who cant wait to pass on info, true or not.

You really think only 5 people can buy that many gems?? Really ...hahhahahahaha.

I am glad we finally put all our strong members in one guild. I hope we do it again and again. Even DK now says they arent going to do it everytime...only when they feel like it or like the prize.

Dangers motto is we do what we feel like. (not what is expected). ...and thats just Danger.

XXX Fire BAMF

Actually it is against GREE's policies:

"Account sharing is against the GREE Terms of Service and can result in your account being banned."

This is one of the problems GREE faces when ownership of an account is disputed

[Fossil]

The quote in the post above is taken directly from this GREE thread on the main page:

http://forums.gree.net/announcement.php?f=99

[Royil]

Its just jealosy...

[Fossil]

Its just jealosy...

An interesting thought, but not sure it is that simple, nor am I clear on who you think is jealous. There are two sides to the coin and I personally couldn't care less as I have no T1 aspirations. Is it an accomplishment worthy of kudos? Most definitely. Is it the crowning of a new champion? No, one win does not an Ali make. As Danger proclaims itself the war machine for 3D, it assumes the same role that DK plays in it's organization and creates a similar environment to the one that lead to the current alliance. The path to keeping it all together will be interesting as egos come into play. If 3D continues to win a majority of the wars, only then will they achieve that lofty goal. Until then they hold the title of "willing to spend what it takes, which I guess is really what it's all about to begin with.

[diaewad]

After almost every post, I thought, "Who gives a ****?" or "Seriously? Whine more." The majority of this thread is awful. It should be closed. And burned.

[bosskiller]

DK is still winning wars? What kind of jobs do they have??

Can't believe they are still having enough fun to waste their money on this game. No updates ever.

[Marco_]

DK is still winning wars? What kind of jobs do they have??

Can't believe they are still having enough fun to waste their money on this game. No updates ever.
There's likely little overlap between people in DK before you left and now.
People cycle through guilds so fast it's kind of silly. Just checked the Majestic/Immortals guilds through my friendlist earlier today and recognized very few of the names in them...

[busteroaf]

Guys, guys, guys and well... potential women reading this entire topic.

I would like to remind you that this thread's topic was an official statement coming from x X x Danger x X x regarding this war.
Yet a few replies in I'm seeing bullets being fired back and forth between DK supporters and the 3D Alliance supporters.
It's alright to have an opinion but the moment you start bashing a guild by accusing them of using hacks I want to remind you that that is NOT what this thread or forum is about.

If you have a problem with players from a guild and you wish to make a statement about how they hacked WITH providing solid proof, I'd like you send a PM to any Gree Forum Community Manager or send a Ticket in game explaining the story thoroughly what happened and exactly how.
NOTE: Straight up accusations won't do a thing in this case, however though you can ask them to do a check on the player or guild in question.

Let's keep the forum clean here, I'd like to see no more accusations of hacking from this point on forward or I'll be forced to initiate a clean sweep in this topic soon ;)

In other words, show some respect by staying mature about this because certain people keep putting oil on the fire right now.

Asking the forum to remain mature is like asking me to stay gone forever. Not gonna happen. But you're right. Back in my day... bashing another guild is all there was to do. It got old quick.


Reversal, why are you not a forum mod. there are a handful of you guys who are seriously great personalities on the forum, and you get nothing.

also - the bans only happaned because the hype we put up on the forum, just saying. they dont have checks and balances otherwise.

many of us already are on the forums 24/7, and might as well let them manage the forums for free. geez.

Spanky, you're still around too? Sheesh.

Oh, btw. Hi kids.

[Arkator]

Congrats to BBT on their T25 though! :D

I'd like to congratulate BoP on their T25 too! They put in a hell of a lot of effort getting that Dragonbourne Aegis :D

[Reversal]

Welcome back busteroaf :)