FYI Announced mods from indie placement do not stack

[evj]

Hi CC community.

Last war I got 12th place in indie. It was a nice prize with 14% mafia attack mod. The Prize was received right after and all was correct so far.

Until I checked my stats. I had around 2.250m attack before prizes was given out, after I got 2.300m.
Far from the announced 14% and I thought there was a mistake so ticket sent.

The answer from Gree:

Thank you for contacting GREE Support. I have inquired with our game designers regarding this issue and unfortunately the rewards with high mafia attack % boosts were not designed to stack with themselves. I sincerely apologize to for any inconvenience or frustration that this causes you. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Regards,

The mods do not stack, a minor issue they "forget" to tell you in the announcement for prizes.

So to all who want a nice mod from indie placement in the events, you will not get it, just the announcement up front.

Please keep on like this Gree, it really makes me want to continue with this game. I think the right describing word for this will get me banned for lifetime.

[sister morphine]

Can't see why you're surprised. All mods are from the raw stat aren't they?

[B0ST0N]

Hi CC community.

Last war I got 12th place in indie. It was a nice prize with 14% mafia attack mod. The Prize was received right after and all was correct so far.

Until I checked my stats. I had around 2.250m attack before prizes was given out, after I got 2.300m.
Far from the announced 14% and I thought there was a mistake so ticket sent.

The answer from Gree:

Thank you for contacting GREE Support. I have inquired with our game designers regarding this issue and unfortunately the rewards with high mafia attack % boosts were not designed to stack with themselves. I sincerely apologize to for any inconvenience or frustration that this causes you. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Regards,

The mods do not stack, a minor issue they "forget" to tell you in the announcement for prizes.

So to all who want a nice mod from indie placement in the events, you will not get it, just the announcement up front.

Please keep on like this Gree, it really makes me want to continue with this game. I think the right describing word for this will get me banned for lifetime.


Well that sucks. So does that mean go for a different mafia item? or a different modifier?

[Gungho]

that is very bad IMO, but not surprising.

[B0ST0N]

Sucks for the people who didn't know and spent a fortune.

[evj]

It seems Jwalt found the answer:

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?100248-It-seems-as-though-members-have-won-the-game!

[evj]

Can we please have a comment from a mod?

[Crobach]

This thread made me go check my inventory as i do enough to end top 100 and get mafia mods every war. And what do i find, a duplicate 13% mod that doesnt stack gained in 2 different wars. This is utterly unacceptable, whats the meaning behind it? Punishing those of us crazy enough to go for high indy placement in more than one war?
Ive sent a ticket in on the issue, i better not get the same answer as posted in the start of this thread.

[B0ST0N]

Makes no sense. I've got a few 11% mods that stack

[b-w]

wow..thanks for the info..not surprised

[evj]

Makes no sense. I've got a few 11% mods that stack

We are not sure, but it seems its the mafia mods that's the problem, not like the LTB prizes who are designed to stack. Whatever it gives u in the stat overview is one thing, but do it really work?

[evj]

It seems Jwalt found the answer:

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?100248-It-seems-as-though-members-have-won-the-game!


My attack today is 2326m. Before last war, my attack came up with a minus in front of it if I rob or attack. Not only this, but it changes too. It has gone from -2030m to -1984m, 1953m and today -1968m. It changes all the time, so it support Jwalts theory.

[B0ST0N]

We are not sure, but it seems its the mafia mods that's the problem, not like the LTB prizes who are designed to stack. Whatever it gives u in the stat overview is one thing, but do it really work?

Hard to tell. Especially from a player like yourself with a higher attack. But I have 3 items in my inventory like I said with a 11% mod. I go to bonuses and it shows 33% because 11 x 3 = 33 of course lol. Did it impact my stats? Who knows. But bonuses add up to 33% so I can only assume so. Mafia is a totally different mod, so who knows.

[iTzMeWaTeRrMaLoOoNe]

Gree needs to change their ways. Nuff Said.

[Weasel]

To be fair, sltq prizes that could be bought with game cash that came with mafia attack mods do not stack either, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Well, not to anyone smart enough to not pay Gree hundreds or thousands of dollars a month.

[Crobach]

Theres a big difference in buying a sltq prize and then gaining it again in the same event vs prizes rewarded from indy placements in different wars and cycles. Im surprised, and the fact it only applies to certain rewards makes it even more insane. I can get 3 of the same 13% car attack and end up with 39% car attack total while 3 of the same 13% mafia attack only gives 13% total.

For the upcoming war i allready have Several of the prizes for top 100 in my inventory so ending top 2000 aactually gives me more stats than ending top 20, that Cant be how its meant to be.

[BIB_Man]

For the upcoming war i allready have Several of the prizes for top 100 in my inventory so ending top 2000 aactually gives me more stats than ending top 20, that Cant be how its meant to be.

You don't think Gree is trying to tell you to spend less gold? That has to be the answer...

[TheJess]

Hi CC community.

Last war I got 12th place in indie. It was a nice prize with 14% mafia attack mod. The Prize was received right after and all was correct so far.

Until I checked my stats. I had around 2.250m attack before prizes was given out, after I got 2.300m.
Far from the announced 14% and I thought there was a mistake so ticket sent.

The answer from Gree:

Thank you for contacting GREE Support. I have inquired with our game designers regarding this issue and unfortunately the rewards with high mafia attack % boosts were not designed to stack with themselves. I sincerely apologize to for any inconvenience or frustration that this causes you. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Regards,

The mods do not stack, a minor issue they "forget" to tell you in the announcement for prizes.

So to all who want a nice mod from indie placement in the events, you will not get it, just the announcement up front.

Please keep on like this Gree, it really makes me want to continue with this game. I think the right describing word for this will get me banned for lifetime.

How odd if this is correct, that there would be an advertised prize, but it does not actually get awarded if you buy or win it. Sounds like you deserve a refund of whatever you spent to purchase this prize. Perhaps if the customer support declines to award you the prize you bought you should consider other options, whatever they may be.

[hexie]

How odd if this is correct,

Color it odd then as it most definitely is correct. Congratz OP. That's somewhere in the order of 8,000 -11,000 Gold required to achieve that rank for an item that didn't stack.

Effectively, there was a better prize given to everyone for free today :) Feel better?

No? Well, take heart. ITunes refunded an amount similar to what you expended to a team-mate in the same boat. Apparently when an advertised prize doesn't actually do what it says on the can, you have an open and shut case in your favor. I suspect Google are equally accommodating.

Until GREE put in a disclaimer: these modifiers won't stack or actually address the issue, if anyone finds themselves in the same tier again they are better off skipping the flippant support.

[Weasel]

Color it odd then as it most definitely is correct. Congratz OP. That's somewhere in the order of 8,000 -11,000 Gold required to achieve that rank for an item that didn't stack.

Effectively, there was a better prize given to everyone for free today :) Feel better?

No? Well, take heart. ITunes refunded an amount similar to what you expended to a team-mate in the same boat. Apparently when an advertised prize doesn't actually do what it says on the can, you have an open and shut case in your favor. I suspect Google are equally accommodating.

Until GREE put in a disclaimer: these modifiers won't stack or actually address the issue, if anyone finds themselves in the same tier again they are better off skipping the flippant support.

Pretty sure this constitutes fraud. When you make an in-app purchase in this game you are buying virtual currency. If you got the virtual currency you paid for... You got what you paid for. Getting what you paid for and asking for a refund while keeping whatever you got sounds pretty fraudulent to me, but I'm no lawyer.

What's next, buying tickets at a carnival and asking for a refund after you spent your tickets losing at carnival games?

[Captain Torgue]

My attack today is 2326m. Before last war, my attack came up with a minus in front of it if I rob or attack. Not only this, but it changes too. It has gone from -2030m to -1984m, 1953m and today -1968m. It changes all the time, so it support Jwalts theory.

Stop bragging about your stats broseph, I'm not impressed.

[evj]

This is not about how much gold you use whatever its for 10.000, 5000, 1000, 500, 10 USD or free/month, but its the time you put in game to get mods and don't get what's promised.

It can hurt ALL type of players and therefore an important issue IMO.

Where is the MOD when you really need them??? Still no answer or comment from them.

[HavingFun]

Same for SA prize, mod didn't stack but have two in my inventory. Noticed it weeks ago but oh well, just a game I continue wasting money on. No reason to make a big deal about it...

[hexie]

Pretty sure this constitutes fraud. When you make an in-app purchase in this game you are buying virtual currency. If you got the virtual currency you paid for... You got what you paid for. Getting what you paid for and asking for a refund while keeping whatever you got sounds pretty fraudulent to me, but I'm no lawyer.

What's next, buying tickets at a carnival and asking for a refund after you spent your tickets losing at carnival games?

Just ... no. You have about as much understanding of what is a meaningful analogy, how a contract involving a scrip works and the general representation of a proffered object vs what one receives as you do about the other thread you directed people from (to here) stating it to be the same issue.

Hint: One is about SA modifiers not stacking despite this not being disclosed. The other is about the numerical limit of the int type which can be reached by someone without ever participating in SA. Good luck on you quest for mod-hood. The fact Tadahh couldn't work out the difference either puts you in good stead for the job.


but I'm no lawyer.
Thanks be.

[Crobach]

Actually not just SA mods, this also is the case for indy rewards from regular wars.

[Weasel]

Just ... no. You have about as much understanding of what is a meaningful analogy, how a contract involving a scrip works and the general representation of a proffered object vs what one receives as you do about the other thread you directed people from (to here) stating it to be the same issue.

Hint: One is about SA modifiers not stacking despite this not being disclosed. The other is about the numerical limit of the int type which can be reached by someone without ever participating in SA. Good luck on you quest for mod-hood. The fact Tadahh couldn't work out the difference either puts you in good stead for the job.


Thanks be.

Fraud
noun
1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

Paid for gold and got gold? Asking for a refund because you are unhappy with the result AFTER using the gold you bought is an attempt to deceive or trick your app store in an effort to gain an unfair AND dishonest advantage in game.

If you think otherwise you are an ignorant fool.

[Green Drake]

Fraud
noun
1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.


If you think otherwise you are an ignorant fool.

Isn't that exactly what gree did if they are advertising a product with a mod that does not deliver as promised?

[TheJess]

Just ... no. You have about as much understanding of what is a meaningful analogy, how a contract involving a scrip works and the general representation of a proffered object vs what one receives as you do about the other thread you directed people from (to here) stating it to be the same issue.

Hint: One is about SA modifiers not stacking despite this not being disclosed. The other is about the numerical limit of the int type which can be reached by someone without ever participating in SA. Good luck on you quest for mod-hood. The fact Tadahh couldn't work out the difference either puts you in good stead for the job.


Thanks be.

Correct. If what OP says really happened, it seems that there may be an improper inducement, i.e. A prize of a modifier was promised, OP says he bought the prize, but then the prize he bought was not awarded. If OP is correct that customer service refused to correct the error for him and all those similarly affected, they made the problem worse, because now they have notice, and cannot claim an unknown programming glitch. Customer service needs to reverse their position promptly or OP would be justified in pursuing other options, whatever they may be.

[Notorious94]

Weasel your an idiot!
He brought gold to achieve rank to achieve a bonus! That bonus does not stack. So in actually fact he's at a DISADVANTAGE not gaining an advantage.
So well within his rights to seek a refund.
I got 2 full refunds from apple (and haven't brought a single gold bar since) for similar issues. Like when gree handed out war prizes an hour before wars finished

[crime cow]

Fraud
noun
1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

Paid for gold and got gold? Asking for a refund because you are unhappy with the result AFTER using the gold you bought is an attempt to deceive or trick your app store in an effort to gain an unfair AND dishonest advantage in game.

If you think otherwise you are an ignorant fool.

I'm sure you're just trying to get people riled up because there is no way you could honestly believe this...if you go to a casino and play table games you have to buy chips. Does that mean your transaction has now ended? No. You have simply exchanged your currency for their currency at the agreed upon rate. Now you are spending that currency on items or services. This is still currency, even if it's virtual. If you spend the currency on an item and don't get what's promised you are entitled to either ask that the situation be resolved to your satisfaction or ask for a refund.

Now, if you spend this currency and lose it because you didn't read the rules or just weren't sure what was going on, well then that's caveat emptor...

[TheJess]

Don't feed the troll.

[Dipstik]

Don't feed the troll.

Actually, he's right. Read the fine print on what you're buying when you get your gold. They explicitly state that you are paying for the gold itself, and you receive no guarantee of any particular benefit from it.

[Notorious94]

Oh look the gree staff (weasel / dippy) are at force protecting them.
Bet you guys love blowin the big boss

[TheJess]

Correct, but don't feed the troll.

[Weasel]

http://product.gree.net/us/en/terms

7. Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods

The Service may include Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods. You have no right, title or interest in or to any such Virtual Goods or Virtual Currency appearing or originating in the Service except for the following: You will have a limited, personal, non-transferable, non-sublicensable, revocable license to use, solely within the Service, Virtual Goods and Virtual Currency that you have earned, purchased or otherwise obtained in a manner authorized by GREE. GREE may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods at any time, with or without notice. GREE shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that GREE exercises any such rights.

The transfer of Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods is prohibited except where expressly authorized in the Service. Other than as expressly authorized in the Service, you shall not sell, redeem or otherwise transfer Virtual Currency or Virtual Goods to any person or entity, including but not limited to GREE, another User or any third party.

You understand and agree that all sales of Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods are final and non-refundable, unless GREE (or the applicable third party platform provider) decides in its sole discretion to provide a refund. You agree that in the event that these Terms of Service, your Account, the Service as a whole or the applicable portion of the Service is terminated or discontinued for any reason, you will forfeit all Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods. GREE will have no liability to you in connection with that forfeiture.

[therealbengie]

this has been going on for a very long time, I earned my 2nd executive coupe and didn't gain the modifier as it didn't stack, gree only said it didn't stack after the event finished.

[t12pm]

Everybody acting like this is something new, look back old double prizes didn't stack look at the coupes mentioned above, so the question is why on earth would you spend a insane amount of money to end at the same prize

[evj]

http://product.gree.net/us/en/terms

7. Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods

The Service may include Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods. You have no right, title or interest in or to any such Virtual Goods or Virtual Currency appearing or originating in the Service except for the following: You will have a limited, personal, non-transferable, non-sublicensable, revocable license to use, solely within the Service, Virtual Goods and Virtual Currency that you have earned, purchased or otherwise obtained in a manner authorized by GREE. GREE may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods at any time, with or without notice. GREE shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that GREE exercises any such rights.

The transfer of Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods is prohibited except where expressly authorized in the Service. Other than as expressly authorized in the Service, you shall not sell, redeem or otherwise transfer Virtual Currency or Virtual Goods to any person or entity, including but not limited to GREE, another User or any third party.

You understand and agree that all sales of Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods are final and non-refundable, unless GREE (or the applicable third party platform provider) decides in its sole discretion to provide a refund. You agree that in the event that these Terms of Service, your Account, the Service as a whole or the applicable portion of the Service is terminated or discontinued for any reason, you will forfeit all Virtual Currency and Virtual Goods. GREE will have no liability to you in connection with that forfeiture.

In countries with none or bad protection of consumers, weasel, Gree's terms work. But they will not work fully in EU or in my country. Consumer laws here protect us against terms that are unfair or against local laws. Apple have lost to our laws several times for their terms and had to change them if they wanted to continue selling via app store locally. Im surprised Apple hasnt taken any action yet, it make bad PR for them too

[evj]

Actually not just SA mods, this also is the case for indy rewards from regular wars.

It was a indie prize, 12th place and 14% mafia attack mod from a regular war who did not stack for me.

[Dipstik]

In countries with none or bad protection of consumers, weasel, Gree's terms work. But they will not work fully in EU or in my country. Consumer laws here protect us against terms that are unfair or against local laws. Apple have lost to our laws several times for their terms and had to change them if they wanted to continue selling via app store locally. Im surprised Apple hasnt taken any action yet, it make bad PR for them too

Go ahead and sue. See what happens. But hey, what do I know...

[TMI]

Ok, so let me get this straight.

Weasel and Dippy (and GREE) are saying that because it's "virtual currency", that somehow makes it ok to violate contract law? smh

Analogy:
I buy 3 goats for 30 USD. That transaction is complete and the property of both parties has exchanged hands (30 USD and 3 goats)

Now I make a contract with someone else, say a shoemaker. He tells me he'll give me a real leather shoe for 1 goat.

We make that transaction, and properties are exchanged under an understanding (a real leather shoe and a goat). I later found out that it wasn't real leather, was a contract not broken?

Of course it was! The shoemaker committed fraud! That's basic contract law, and is a cornerstone for a free society. Laws against fraud.

If am I wrong, then where?

:)

Also, what if I gave the shoemaker was a chicken instead. Didn't I commit fraud in that instance?

[Dipstik]

I make it a rule not to argue the finer points of contract law with people who obviously can't read a contract. Believe what you want. If you whine enough you might even get something out of it. You're still wrong.

[TMI]

LOL

But please, can someone show where my logic breaks down?

To be specific, I'm speaking of the contract that was for the exchange of x gold for item y.

Thanks :)

Edit: I re-read and saw Virtual Goods can be deleted as well. GREE is lookin' good (in the USA).
In my analogy, I tell the shoemaker I'll give him 1 goat, and he'll say that he may or may not give me a real leather shoe. And I still agree to the exchange of goods.

[Dipstik]

If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that that is not a "contract."

[PedroPimples]

The only thing GREE have to Adhere to Is the issue of gold for the money spent.
There is no contract or guarantee for anything for your gold after that point.
I think I'll take the actual lawyers word on this over people who are just clutching at straws.

[crime cow]

The bottom line is you can listen to the experts here all you'd like, but the simple fact of the matter is there are consumer protections in place for situations like this one. It doesn't matter what anyone types in bold print. If you thing you have been wronged go to apple or google for a refund. If they refund your money, then that's enough to show you were right. If they don't, then you're basically out of luck because it would be too expensive to litigate unless your a class action attorney...

[Dipstik]

If they refund your money, then that's enough to show you were right.

You really believe this?

[TMI]

Ok, not a "contract". Let's call it an agreement.

It's funny cuz this agreement (TOS) states that one of the parties (GREE) can break agreements that are made in the game (pop ups, or advertising ingame that ask for a trade for virtual goods for your virtual currency).

LOL

[t12pm]

LOL

But please, can someone show where my logic breaks down?

To be specific, I'm speaking of the contract that was for the exchange of x gold for item y.

Thanks :)

Edit: I re-read and saw Virtual Goods can be deleted as well. GREE is lookin' good (in the USA).
In my analogy, I tell the shoemaker I'll give him 1 goat, and he'll say that he may or may not give me a real leather shoe. And I still agree to the exchange of goods.

The logic breaks down at common sense, as this has been happening for a long time since the second executive coupe or maybe earlier, so if you go now and spend a ton of money for the same prize and mod what would make you think it is going to stack? Common sense says no so we spend then come here and cry the blues because it don't stack which should of been known as they didn't before

[Vile Lynn]

Ok, so let me get this straight.

Weasel and Dippy (and GREE) are saying that because it's "virtual currency", that somehow makes it ok to violate contract law? smh

Analogy:
I buy 3 goats for 30 USD. That transaction is complete and the property of both parties has exchanged hands (30 USD and 3 goats)

Now I make a contract with someone else, say a shoemaker. He tells me he'll give me a real leather shoe for 1 goat.

We make that transaction, and properties are exchanged under an understanding (a real leather shoe and a goat). I later found out that it wasn't real leather, was a contract not broken?

Of course it was! The shoemaker committed fraud! That's basic contract law, and is a cornerstone for a free society. Laws against fraud.

If am I wrong, then where?

:)

Also, what if I gave the shoemaker was a chicken instead. Didn't I commit fraud in that instance?

It's not really the same thing...

GREE has authored their ToS so that no matter what they do, GREE is infallible. We agree, by playing, that whatever GREE does is OK: we have no ownership over any part of the game, regardless of how much real money one gives to GREE.*This is how they can change the game rules and dynamics whenever they want without announcing or face any retribution when they mess up.

As for your analogy, you might have thought you bought those goats for 30 USD, but you missed the ToS stating the goats are, in fact, not really goats or even your goats after paying.

Buy at your own risk.
Buyer beware.

[crime cow]

You really believe this?

You really don't believe this?

[Dipstik]

Actually, I think it's one of the funniest things I've seen here in days.

[crime cow]

Then we have both found this thread amusing...

[Captain Torgue]

Ok, so let me get this straight.

Weasel and Dippy (and GREE) are saying that because it's "virtual currency", that somehow makes it ok to violate contract law? smh

Analogy:
I buy 3 goats for 30 USD. That transaction is complete and the property of both parties has exchanged hands (30 USD and 3 goats)

Now I make a contract with someone else, say a shoemaker. He tells me he'll give me a real leather shoe for 1 goat.

We make that transaction, and properties are exchanged under an understanding (a real leather shoe and a goat). I later found out that it wasn't real leather, was a contract not broken?

Of course it was! The shoemaker committed fraud! That's basic contract law, and is a cornerstone for a free society. Laws against fraud.

If am I wrong, then where?

:)

Also, what if I gave the shoemaker was a chicken instead. Didn't I commit fraud in that instance?

I prefer when you use asphalt in your analogy broseph.

[sister morphine]

It's not really the same thing...

GREE has authored their ToS so that no matter what they do, GREE is infallible. We agree, by playing, that whatever GREE does is OK: we have no ownership over any part of the game, regardless of how much real money one gives to GREE.*This is how they can change the game rules and dynamics whenever they want without announcing or face any retribution when they mess up.

As for your analogy, you might have thought you bought those goats for 30 USD, but you missed the ToS stating the goats are, in fact, not really goats or even your goats after paying.

Buy at your own risk.
Buyer beware.
It's like anything to do with computing - you purchase a program, but all you own is a license to use it. The company is under no obligation to make it possible for you to do so. They could change their OS the next day rendering your program incompatible. Buyer beware indeed!

[DeepSea]

Its also a good thing so that high stats players can slow down in their stats and giving low stats players a chance to catch up.

[HavingFun]

Where in the hell can you buy 3 goats for thirty dollars? That's cheap!!

[Evan1000]

I have two of the same prize for individual placement in war.. and both mods stack up and work fine for me- The Hook's Sniper.

http://i.imgur.com/Xnuf9uX.png

http://i.imgur.com/4YM1V86.png

[Vile Lynn]

Hacker!

You know.... GREE is in your hood right now removing one. :cool:

[TMI]

those stack cuz they're not 10%.
Apparently it's only the items with mods over 10% that don't stack. or something like that.

[Evan1000]

those stack cuz they're not 10%.
Apparently it's only the items with mods over 10% that don't stack. or something like that.

Well that's dumb.. but hey it is GREE math we're talking about

[Crobach]

Its even dumber i think, its just mafia mods that doesnt stack..

[Evan1000]

Its even dumber i think, its just mafia mods that doesnt stack..

Lmao damn, so it only affects GREE's top spenders? How could they do such a thing.. that hurts themselves

[Notorious94]

Lmao damn, so it only affects GREE's top spenders? How could they do such a thing.. that hurts themselves

Lmao no it doesn't because the people at the top don't have enough brain cells to actually go "wait a minute they mugging me off here, I won't buy gold, I'll be DL for top 30/50 syndicate and my stats will still be superiour in 6 months time"
They just tap tap tap. Enter apple password for purchase
Tap tap tap
Complain
Buy more....

Perfect example is there "strike" that all top 10 committed To lmfao....
Funniest thing I have seen in years.

[TheJess]

Lmao no it doesn't because the people at the top don't have enough brain cells to actually go "wait a minute they mugging me off here, I won't buy gold, I'll be DL for top 30/50 syndicate and my stats will still be superiour in 6 months time"
They just tap tap tap. Enter apple password for purchase
Tap tap tap
Complain
Buy more....

Perfect example is there "strike" that all top 10 committed To lmfao....
Funniest thing I have seen in years.

Whether some people spend foolishly or are addicted is a separate, but valid question. Even if they are foolish spenders, it's a problem if a prize they bought is not awarded. I agree that spending so much time or money would be foolish.

But if it's the addicted or foolish who are the ones being cheated then it is even more egregious if this is happenibg.

[B0ST0N]

Lmao no it doesn't because the people at the top don't have enough brain cells to actually go "wait a minute they mugging me off here, I won't buy gold, I'll be DL for top 30/50 syndicate and my stats will still be superiour in 6 months time"
They just tap tap tap. Enter apple password for purchase
Tap tap tap
Complain
Buy more....

Perfect example is there "strike" that all top 10 committed To lmfao....
Funniest thing I have seen in years.

You'd be surprised how much of a difference that made.

[Evan1000]

You'd be surprised how much of a difference that made.

I've always wondered.. what are those low level beast stats of yours?

[TheJess]

It appears that The developers are recognizing the seriousness of this problem. OP, let us know how Gree compensated you.

[dip.stick]

Stop complaining you moron

[Babytway]

is there any moderator that will comment on original post

[Gungho]

is there any moderator that will comment on original post


It seems they are busy with appreciation, so we might aswell close this thread LOL

[Tadaaah]

To the OP:

This is correct; individual reward bonuses do not stack. This is currently by design. We are always looking for ways to improve the player experience. We’ve passed this along to our development team for further discussion.

[TheJess]

To the OP:

This is correct; individual reward bonuses do not stack. This is currently by design. We are always looking for ways to improve the player experience. We’ve passed this along to our development team for further discussion.

That's quite a revelation for everyone. Good luck with it.

[B0ST0N]

I've always wondered.. what are those low level beast stats of yours?

For me to know.... for you to find out.

[Dipstik]

I'm... Dreaming.... Of a Hmong.... Christmas...

[Idiokus]

Fix the stacking issue lol ...pure BS ! No need to elaborate more simply makes no sence Gree! Your top spenders don't like this ...unless you don't care about your top spenders. Lol

[montecore]

To the OP:

This is correct; individual reward bonuses do not stack. This is currently by design. We are always looking for ways to improve the player experience. We’ve passed this along to our development team for further discussion.

So do you plan on swapping items out with stackable items, refunding gold, or changing the design?

Or do you plan on continuing to rip off your best customers by advertising a prize that doesn't work and not notifying them of this ahead of time?

[Captain Torgue]

So do you plan on swapping items out with stackable items, refunding gold, or changing the design?

Or do you plan on continuing to rip off your best customers by advertising a prize that doesn't work and not notifying them of this ahead of time?

Quit your whining broseph. Lift more, whine less!

[Dipstik]

Quit your whining broseph. Lift more, whine less!

He's sas. Skipping leg day and whining is par for the course.

[TheJess]

So do you plan on swapping items out with stackable items, refunding gold, or changing the design?

Or do you plan on continuing to rip off your best customers by advertising a prize that doesn't work and not notifying them of this ahead of time?

Given what they acknowledged maybe also consulting w legal on how to minimize their risk. There already has been considerable fallout amongst the affected player base.

[Dipstik]

Given what they acknowledged maybe also consulting w legal on how to minimize their risk.

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[evj]

To the OP:

This is correct; individual reward bonuses do not stack. This is currently by design. We are always looking for ways to improve the player experience. We’ve passed this along to our development team for further discussion.

So Tadaaah, why not design announcement so it fits with reality? FYI, since I did not received the 14% mafia attack, I have the last events skipped high indie placements and saved a ton of gold :). Many in our team skip high indie placements as they do not stack.

At the moment Im re-considering this game, its not giving the return of joy as it did before, because I feel really bad about the "service" Gree currently offer and tired of being fooled again and again and again.....

[Vile Lynn]

At the moment Im re-considering this game, its not giving the return of joy as it did before, because I feel really bad about the "service" Gree currently offer and tired of being fooled again and again and again.....

You might be pleasantly surprised how fun it is to play for free or with a bit of gold.
War can be a little boring waiting 25mins for each hit, but I got used to it. Best thing was leaving a T10 for a syndicate with active, mostly free players like me. Using a little gold goes a long way now.

[Asto]

You might be pleasantly surprised how fun it is to play for free or with a bit of gold.
War can be a little boring waiting 25mins for each hit, but I got used to it. Best thing was leaving a T10 for a syndicate with active, mostly free players like me. Using a little gold goes a long way now.
Could not be more accurate. Anyone considering/wishing to quit the game or at least quit spending, I suggest you take heed of this and give it a go.

[TheJess]

Hi CC community.

Last war I got 12th place in indie. It was a nice prize with 14% mafia attack mod. The Prize was received right after and all was correct so far.

Until I checked my stats. I had around 2.250m attack before prizes was given out, after I got 2.300m.
Far from the announced 14% and I thought there was a mistake so ticket sent.

The answer from Gree:

Thank you for contacting GREE Support. I have inquired with our game designers regarding this issue and unfortunately the rewards with high mafia attack % boosts were not designed to stack with themselves. I sincerely apologize to for any inconvenience or frustration that this causes you. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Regards,

The mods do not stack, a minor issue they "forget" to tell you in the announcement for prizes.

So to all who want a nice mod from indie placement in the events, you will not get it, just the announcement up front.

Please keep on like this Gree, it really makes me want to continue with this game. I think the right describing word for this will get me banned for lifetime.

Has this problem been fixed?

[Dipstik]

No, it's been clarified. It's supposed to work that way