Halloween Collection

[Marco_]

Didn't see a topic about it yet...

rewards:

Non-plus: 3 keys and a cape
Plus: 5 keys and Soulshard Necromantle, clearly signalling that 2nd gen non-plus epics like it are no longer worth leveling. (Necro is 3152 combined, Bride+ is 3113 at about 60% the resources to max)


The bosses:

Bride: mono water
Alucard: mono air
Crypt Walker: fire/earth
Boogeyman: water/fire



And for those too rich for their own good, they can spend a few thousand gems summoning all 4 bosses already and speeding up the crafting, so they can wear their new fancy cape right now!.. (got the boss elements from the summoning stone)

[sxespanky]

i saw this yesterday - i thought who in their right mind would do that.... but i'm sure at least one guy will.

also the epic is slightly better with maxed guild, because the extra 10%

SoulShard Necromantle (Epic) = Attack 1826 Defence 1326 =3152*1.2= 3782.4 stat points at level 10 guild bonuses (water and spirit).

Resserested Ironguard+ (Bride) = Attack 1564 Defence 1549 = 3113*1.1= 3424.3 stat points at level 10 guild bonus(water)

its a small amount more, and i personally will not kill myself trying to get to plus versions, but if i do, then all right.

[Marco_]

I just picked Bride+ since we already know its maxed stats. I'm sure the 2 duals in the collection will have similar stats, since Gree remains clueless about balancing duals and monos for guild bonusses...

[Adisty]

Thanks for the heads up on the boss elements. I avoid the Summoning Stone like the plague for fear of locking my armor.

I will be maxing the Soulshard after receiving it, because in my opinion it's about the individual stats, not combined. Also, I consider it as a mono spirit with dual bonuses, because of the element combination. I don't use any armor that gives me a weakness for the benefit of a dual attack bonus.

[Lord P]

30 days to my first epic..... I'll be one of the crazy people going all the way with this. It's nice to be a youngling in this game.

[Sent]

Soulshard is alright. I really like the look of it though so I'll be going for it. I need to get rid of some armors though. I fused Odin's yesterday so that cleared up about 200 armors. Just need to use another 80 or so but they're all 2*/3*/fba, so I'll have to find something to put those into.

[Rhaegal]

For well established players, it's a free epic. And keys, and a cape. I'm in!

The key word here is FREE! So why complain?

[Lord P]

Shoot, I don't even care that it's a level 1 Epic. It will still be my first and I won't have to wait ten months to get one.

[jaxom]

I'll be going for it just because it will be nice to have something different to aim for...

[Scabs]

I'll be getting it just because it won't require much effort on my part and I need a water/spirit epic for my collection. They keys are a bonus since I got ravage plate with the last set of 8 keys.

[legalious]

I was going to post a topic but I got distracted at home. I want the epic and will work towards it.

[Smiley80]

crazy thought: did they confirm it was a regular epic? because if by some MIRACAL it was an epic+, then it might be worth it, but I am probably dreaming.

And stop making purple/black capes. There are other colors in the rainbow!

[Lord P]

All the adds say its the regular version.

[Marco_]

For well established players, it's a free epic. And keys, and a cape. I'm in!

The key word here is FREE! So why complain?
Not complaining, just mentioning that Gree putting an epic as collection reward means that you should expect a boss+ of same elements and similar max stats (but 29 levels less) to arrive probably within a month after collecting the prize.
For me personally it's a signal that it might be time to retire the Soulshard Necromantle I got from the second android guild war from my team and build a new arena team around Forgestone+ and either Druid or Ravage...
Again personally, I'm more looking forward to Boogeyman, since Horseman has been obsolete as 3rd armor against fire/spirit for a bit and even Krampus is struggling. (2538 Horseman, 2651 Krampus, 3018 Lilith, that stat inflation...)

[Lord P]

This is my first collection. Do I have to have the + version complete before the start of the next round or do I need them all by the end of the whole thing to get the epic armor?

[Scabs]

You need all + versions completely crafted and in your inventory by the end date/time. This means that on the last EB, you need to beat him 15, craft regular, level regular to 35, beat 43 times and have the + version crafted before that EB disappears. So, you basically have 7 full days to do that.

[Scabs]

What i do is take my time with the first 3 since there's no rush. Save your better fusion fodder for the last armor so you can quickly get it to 35 in order to craft the +. I generally craft all 4 of my + versions at the end (4 level 3 armories).

[Lord P]

What i do is take my time with the first 3 since there's no rush. Save your better fusion fodder for the last armor so you can quickly get it to 35 in order to craft the +. I generally craft all 4 of my + versions at the end (4 level 3 armories).
Thank you..... I was thinking I had to have the first EB+ crafted by next Tuesday. This gives me some flexibility.

[Scabs]

Also, feel free to fuse away the regular versions once you get em to level 35. You only need the + versions to collect both rewards.

[Lord P]

Also, feel free to fuse away the regular versions once you get em to level 35. You only need the + versions to collect both rewards.
Excellent. That's good to know since I don't have a million armor slots yet. Thanks for the insight.

[Michiel81]

Recently, i guess since last patch my armor stats dropped when equipped.

I assume it's armor stats + character level.

(Taking lvl 70 Armor of Glacius as example 1050/1050)
So if the armor gives 1050+607 = 1657 attack/def?
So if i'm corrent i should get 1657/1657?
Why am i only getting 1366/1366?

This happens to all my armors, I send a support ticket but no reply yet.

Currently this makes the game kinda unplayable for me, where i normally take 2 characters to do Haunted Citadel it now takes almost 3 (200hp left in the end) Epic bosses take much longer to kill and cost more tries. Normally i get to 15 on the first day.

[Smiley80]

stats are not the armor plus 607. 607 is the life of your main character!

It is the base stats plus your character stats (and not life) and the guild elemental bonus (0-20% increase) and the bonus if your HC, GS, GC or GM (5-10% increase).

the biggest drop would be if you were a GM in a maxed guild and you left. all your stats would drop by 30%.

As for the epic boss i usually get to level 10 before i run out of energy. then i wait until it fills up.

[Jun-fan]

Recently, i guess since last patch my armor stats dropped when equipped.

I assume it's armor stats + character level.

(Taking lvl 70 Armor of Glacius as example 1050/1050)
So if the armor gives 1050+607 = 1657 attack/def?
So if i'm corrent i should get 1657/1657?
Why am i only getting 1366/1366?

This happens to all my armors, I send a support ticket but no reply yet.

Currently this makes the game kinda unplayable for me, where i normally take 2 characters to do Haunted Citadel it now takes almost 3 (200hp left in the end) Epic bosses take much longer to kill and cost more tries. Normally i get to 15 on the first day.

0. If you're going to hijack a thread, hijack something that remotely makes sense to what your problem is. This thread is rather specific in what it's about, and it definitely is not about stats issues.
1. You assumed incorrectly when you add stats + level. Please tell me you're really not a lv 607 - if you're that high and you don't know this yet, there's something wrong.
2. Have you stopped to consider that EBs are getting stronger and you may not be able to handle them as easily as you used to, especially considering the different elements involved?

[Marco_]

There was no need to hijack anything. The correct topic is:
http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?52276-Tips-amp-Tricks-How-To-Questions-amp-More
This is done so useless topic spam doesn't push useful topics off the first page as quickly.


Recently, i guess since last patch my armor stats dropped when equipped.

I assume it's armor stats + character level.

(Taking lvl 70 Armor of Glacius as example 1050/1050)
So if the armor gives 1050+607 = 1657 attack/def?
So if i'm corrent i should get 1657/1657?
Why am i only getting 1366/1366?

This happens to all my armors, I send a support ticket but no reply yet.

Currently this makes the game kinda unplayable for me, where i normally take 2 characters to do Haunted Citadel it now takes almost 3 (200hp left in the end) Epic bosses take much longer to kill and cost more tries. Normally i get to 15 on the first day.
Glacius non-plus. Really? You haven't fused that away long ago yet?
http://knights-and-dragons.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_of_Glacius

http://knights-and-dragons.wikia.com/wiki/My_Knights
Commander max atk/def: 316
So on a commander: (1050 + 316) * (100 + guild_position)% * (100 + guild_element_bonus1 + guild_element_bonus2)%
(if I remember correct, round up to an integer between each multiplication)
So 1366 is perfectly fine if you're not in a guild or a commander in a guild with no bonusses.

PS: hardly anyone probably runs Haunted Citadel. A low damage location such as Skeletons Tomb to trigger the boss, Kingdom of Darkness Epic to farm 3* materials and levels.


With a more recent boss+, such as Smilodon+ or Death+, getting solo to 18 on Bride should be feasable if you have decent bonusses from guild.

[sxespanky]

A low damage location such as Skeletons Tomb to trigger the boss, Kingdom of Darkness Epic to farm 3* materials and levels.

i run the easy level of the first boss, theres one monster, one monster, and boss(i leave), then open the 2nd difficulty, 1 enemy, 2 enemy, and boss(i leave) and repeat. i dont have time to goof around with that stuff. i iwsh we could just summon the boss without that bit.

[Marco_]

i iwsh we could just summon the boss without that bit.
Staying off topic and cynical: Gree probably hopes that if people accidentally trigger the boss while farming a location when they have too low epic energy, they buy epic energy instead of waiting 2 hours for it to go away and then trigger it again. I guess they could create the same effect with a "trigger boss" button without confirmation popup...

[Smiley80]

Is it just me or the cape is not a cape...I am not 100% sure of the look either. and why are all the reward capes purple and black!

[KillerX]

I would love the cape.....if only the update would download so i could get it, and the epic, and fight the raid boss...

[dust92]

I have just used the regular version to fuse after it reached lvl 35 . Now the mark on the regular version is gone . But I can only craft a plus version now

What shall I do ? Is it a must to earn reward 1 before reward 2 ?

[dust92]

Also, feel free to fuse away the regular versions once you get em to level 35. You only need the + versions to collect both rewards.

are U sure ? I have fused away the regular version , and the stick on the reward board disapperd

[Kakarot]

You cannot claim reward #2 before claiming #1 first... It worked this way like Scabs said to the last collection event.

[dust92]

You cannot claim reward #2 before claiming #1 first... It worked this way like Scabs said to the last collection event.

so I just need to keep the plus version ?

thank you . I was afraid that I couldn't have reward 1 after fusing away the regular armor

[sxespanky]

so I just need to keep the plus version ?
thank you . I was afraid that I couldn't have reward 1 after fusing away the regular armor

i forgot how this worked. its going to show that you cant claim the reward because you haven't crafted the + yet, once you craft the plus, it will show that its original, and + portion is unlocked and completed. i'm fusing the non plus since i just got it to 35 to make room.

unfortunatly, i have a water, and fire/spirit to fuse, so im going to avoid that, i dont want a moontide, and there are no fire/water , so i guess i will hold on to it a while.

[Baardbarian]

I'm slowly approaching Bride lvl.43, been fighting several times every with all I can.
Currently at 33 and dont think I can reach 43 in time

Maybe my armors just aren't good enough? No + armors, only regular at finally lvl.35.
Should I max a few regualrs and hope for the right boss to come along?

I also just realised I have no chance getting all + armors, even paying to hit the ss Bride or more energy, since I need to finish crafting the last + version before the last boss is gone!

Earlier wasn't there a week after all this you could use to cash in? This is impossible? I was finally thinking I'd have an epic, but this does not seem to be the case :(

[Sent]

I'm slowly approaching Bride lvl.43, been fighting several times every with all I can.
Currently at 33 and dont think I can reach 43 in time

Maybe my armors just aren't good enough? No + armors, only regular at finally lvl.35.
Should I max a few regualrs and hope for the right boss to come along?

I also just realised I have no chance getting all + armors, even paying to hit the ss Bride or more energy, since I need to finish crafting the last + version before the last boss is gone!

Earlier wasn't there a week after all this you could use to cash in? This is impossible? I was finally thinking I'd have an epic, but this does not seem to be the case :(
You would probably need three Lv. 70 armors + multiple good friends in order to kill an EB 43 times.

[Rookeye]

Don't feel bad if you can't collect this group; keep upgrading your armors and improve your friends list. You WILL get there on the next one perhaps! :)

[sxespanky]

I'm slowly approaching Bride lvl.43, been fighting several times every with all I can.
Currently at 33 and dont think I can reach 43 in time

Maybe my armors just aren't good enough? No + armors, only regular at finally lvl.35.
Should I max a few regualrs and hope for the right boss to come along?

I also just realised I have no chance getting all + armors, even paying to hit the ss Bride or more energy, since I need to finish crafting the last + version before the last boss is gone!

Earlier wasn't there a week after all this you could use to cash in? This is impossible? I was finally thinking I'd have an epic, but this does not seem to be the case :(

i play pretty off and on, but the main thing to remember is stay on top of your energy - also dont use up all your freinds right away. on early stages i would use my main, and then a freind. once i couldnt get any farther, id use my main, a second ,and a freind. that way i could get about 10 sets of attacks in. at the end, near 35, you(i) need a full team of 5 to continue, by that time i have 2 days to get 7 kills. plenty of time for me.

[Scabs]

I'm slowly approaching Bride lvl.43, been fighting several times every with all I can.
Currently at 33 and dont think I can reach 43 in time

Maybe my armors just aren't good enough? No + armors, only regular at finally lvl.35.
Should I max a few regualrs and hope for the right boss to come along?

I also just realised I have no chance getting all + armors, even paying to hit the ss Bride or more energy, since I need to finish crafting the last + version before the last boss is gone!

Earlier wasn't there a week after all this you could use to cash in? This is impossible? I was finally thinking I'd have an epic, but this does not seem to be the case :(

Get your guy to level 100, otherwise getting the 43 kills will be very tough since your friends are scaled down to your level. This "challenge" is really meant for players at level 100+.

[poprocks]

i saw this yesterday - i thought who in their right mind would do that.... but i'm sure at least one guy will.

also the epic is slightly better with maxed guild, because the extra 10%

SoulShard Necromantle (Epic) = Attack 1826 Defence 1326 =3152*1.2= 3782.4 stat points at level 10 guild bonuses (water and spirit).

Resserested Ironguard+ (Bride) = Attack 1564 Defence 1549 = 3113*1.1= 3424.3 stat points at level 10 guild bonus(water)

its a small amount more, and i personally will not kill myself trying to get to plus versions, but if i do, then all right.

interesting data, thanks for the numbers crunch

[Marco_]

Well, looks like they picked the perfect elements for the next boss to use the Soulshard Necromantle reward against. (water/spirit and spirit/earth being the preferred picks vs an earth/water boss)